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or have you already been conned mate?
Wouldn't it be so much easier if we lived in an Aladdin idyll like good little boys and girls.
In fact, why bother with elections at all? Aladdin knows best.
Because some people are too stupid to think beyond such lies and manipulation?
And because after the initial 'furore', after the racists fascist were denied a platform to speak from and members to place in seats of power, their filth would be relegated mostly to the function rooms of the odd delerict pub, and the public at large would cease to be exposed to their pestilence.
Yes. Because the BNP has been allowed to say for many years, legally and legitimately- which sadly makes such lies legitimate in the minds of fools.
Even if one happens to believe in the "damaging" agenda of communism, as I have said about 75 trillion times now there is a distinct difference (IMO of course) between fascism/racism and everything else.
So no, nothing else needs to be banned and no other parties need worrying.
Gosh, is it such a difficult concept to grasp, everyone?
Who is anybody?
Does this mean I can go and rape somebody? I mean, who is anyone to tell me it's wrong?
Hell, I wouldn't even ban the BNP if they pledged to stop all racist filth peddling from tomorrow.
Think carefully before you answer. Especially regarding the Church.
You ain't got a clue.
You ain't got a clue.
You ain't got a clue.
Ah yes, your opinion.
Communism is just as much about hate as the far-right are.
In just about every thread about religion in, ooh, the last four years.
The fact remains that the BNP keeps rising and rising despite all the claims from the freedom of speech fundamentalists that it's better to let them say what they want and them expose them for what they are.
Is that not the case?
In your opinion.
Please.
Should be easy enough, what with me saying so all the time.
so easy to blame the politicians again and again.
mixed inner city communities in my experience get on so much better without middle class white folk interfering with what can be said and what can't.
with middle class politicaly correct dogma, forced down the throats of the ...
stupid and ignorant alladin calls them ...they have have divided and seperated people beyond recognition.
people fear each other cos they no longer understand each other.
through the fifties and sixties these parties existed ...on a shoe string in a room in a back to back.
the the whites the irish the asian the oriental and the afros and all mixes inbetween ...used to hold anti nazi ralies to educate people ...gues what?
it kept them at bay ...kept them in the backstreet.
but now ...no one goes out much anymore ...
Why? Do you think they're being clever by voting for the British National Party?
they may well be politicaly totaqly ignorant ...maybe because the daily grind of ;life ...win and loose win and loose and loose some more ...is more than enough to be dealing with.
pay your way and get drunk at the end of the week covers a wide spectrum of us stupid ignorant english people.
many of these people are extremely clever talented and hard working ...but people like you ...put them off politics straight away!
if aladdin doesn't wish it ...then aladdin will destroy it!
It really is elitist and patronising to ban the BNP on the premise that there are some people ‘stupid’ and ‘gullible’ enough to believe their claims. Labour got elected into power in 1997 on the back of all kinds of ridiculous claims that the public swallowed. Not that Cameron will be any different if he wins an election for the Conservatives. That’s democracy. And if the BNP pick up a few local council seats on the basis of their extreme beliefs well that too is democracy. If you believe in democracy you can't pick and choose which results you accept.
Given the non-existence of liberal democracy throughout the Middle East with the exception of Israel – I was delighted when the Palestinians joined Israel in embracing democracy in the Middle East. I was disappointed that the Palestinians elected Hamas, a terrorist group responsible for the murders of hundreds of innocent people; a group that has deliberately targeted children in its vicious attacks. Further, as well as being a terrorist group Hamas is openly anti-Semitic. That you don’t consider Hamas racist is sad – I hope it is ignorance rather than a belief that anti-Semitism is not racism.
However, going back to the point despite the vileness of Hamas I could not possibly endorse any plan to deny them the right to stand in free and fair elections. If Palestinians regrettably wish to vote for Hamas if a truly democratic election is taking place they must be allowed to.
The slight rise in popularity of the BNP has been worrying but banning them is a lazy solution that will prove more trouble in the long run. Force them underground and you might even end up with a terrorist group – far right terrorists have existed before. At the very least the BNP would milk the ‘PC liberal elite’ banning the party for all its worth, there’d be a backlash and overnight you’d convert sympathisers into activists. Tackling the increasing popularity of the BNP is a challenge – but we need to put it into perspective, it’s still a tiny party with miniscule support. However, the so called rise of the BNP has happened since this government took office in ’97 – to a large extent Labour’s failures are responsible imo.
Bullshit tbh.
I suppose Lord Mount Batton blew himself up on hos boat then?
:rolleyes:
I was laughing at the "tens of thousands" comment, complete and utter tripe, do your revision before coming back with such figures.
However, and for the millionth time today, not all politicians lie about racial issues and are unashamed fascists/racists making up stuff about people of other races/backgrounds in order to further their evil agenda.
That is the difference between the BNP and anyone else.
*cough* Likud *cough*
Seeing as members of Hamas are semitic themselves I find that hard to believe.
It comes and goes, and I guess it is at its most popular whenever there are larger segments of the public discontent with current affairs- at the end of the day the BNP had a scarely significant presence in many council wards in the late 70s and early 80s.
That is the only saving grace to this situation- that it is not unique and there is a precedent of people temporarily switching to the BNP. But it is still a fairly worrying developement, and we don't really want to risk the BNP establishing a permanent presence in British politics. Clearly the current position of 'let them speak and make fools of themselves' isn't working.
The figure is about 3,600, the IRA is responsible for 2,000 or so of these.
misunderstanding of each others dress language customs beliefs etc etc.
because we have become ghettoised.
we no longer associate on a normal level ...normal for a multi cultural society that is.
we no longer know each other ...everyone is a potential enemy ...it used to be friend amnd co worker.
Perhaps we should ship him off to North Korea and let him compare which society is more successful?
To be fair, I don't think a lot of BNP voters know what they stand for, they just listen to the same old tiresome shit that the BNP spout every time a black man is charged with a crime, or when there are problems between races.
Some of the BNP's ideas I actually agree with, but at the same time it doesn't change the fact that they are racist, homophobic, xenophobic and Islamophobic. But because they are not allowed to speak, people will not know what they stand for because all their leaflets seem to say is kick the darkies out...
A great deal of our economy depends on the cheap labour of these immigrants who come over here and work jobs for minimum wage that a lot of native Brits would ask more for. If anything, blame the businesses and not the people coming here to work for them, the businesses just want to make money... As do a lot of immigrants and what they earn here, whilst it seems like peanuts to us is a lot of money in their country.
I say let them speak, they'd be taken apart by the British media, I mean honestly, what would they say on television?
Also, by restricting what they can say we are a, infringing their human rights and b, providing a recruiting tool and another excuse for them to talk about how the government is oppressing the white man.
If it is OK for Eminem to talk about bashing queers, for homophobic reggae and for ministers to openly say in papers that people are queer should get therapy, it should be OK for the BNP to discuss their policies...
There is a difference between voicing an opinion and inciting violence.
I have to agree.
However, I do concur that the solution just can't be an outright banning of the party as then they'll be pushed underground, display themselves as censored, wronged and surpressed... and more than likely begin to appeal to a lot of people who weren't remotely interested when they were a legitimate political party.
That's human nature, as far as I can tell, and not the position we (or, at least, I) want to end up in with regards to the likes of the BNP.
Ah, my suspicions were well-founded.
Anti-Semitic refers to hatred or discrimination against Jews. Assuming that meaning of anti-Semitism Hamas is undeniably anti-Semitic. If you prefer, Hamas is anti-Jewish. Either way their thoughts on Jews are equivalent to racism, Judaism obviously not being a race but discrimination or hatred based on someone’s Jewishness is equivalent to racism. I’m disappointed that you don’t seem to agree and refuse to apply the same standard to Hamas as you do to the BNP - equally, that you seem to refuse to treat racism and anti-Semitism equally is extremely sad.
You realy are so full of shit your quite obviously blatently trying to score pathetic little points rather than debating the issue, "immigrants driving out good white people" as if I said that, firstly so called "white flight" is a fact it happens all the arears that are predomidantly non white used to be white do you deny this. And as for your comment
"Asians are responsible for rapes in many communities, and they are breeding and harbouring terrorists, especially in Lancashire and Yorkshire. What the BNP say about the situation in Keighley is true,"
Sounds much more like racist drivel than anything Ive said.
If you want to debate points weve both said then Im happy to do that and youl lose, If you want to debate nasty personal attacks Im happy to do that as well and youl also lose.
Perhaps you should stick to making nasty personall attacks on people who are weak enough to let a sad loser like you bully them, for what its worth I
think your attacks on me underline more about your own insecurities and your atempts to make you feel better about your self than they do about and any points Id made.