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doom and gloom.
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400 million people to starve and die ...cos of global warming!
apparently we are three degrees away from hell.
and they now reckon we could get there a lot quicker than previously thought.
apparently we are three degrees away from hell.
and they now reckon we could get there a lot quicker than previously thought.
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Earth wasn't designed to take all this!
No they don't, quite the opposite in fact.
Out of financial and social reasons (mainly the structure of the welfare state) then we do, if we want to be able to retire and be taken care of as it is functioning now.
People = governments. May have worded it quite badly but the truth is that most of the western governments are worried about falling birthrates and want people to reproduce more.
Plus why are we encouraged to use contraceptives all the time, in the 60's when they first came out there was no such thing as STD's yet they were still encouraged, plus in a relationship there's no need to use them unless there's other factors stopping you. The government want lower numbers of people born but just enough for the economy to sustain itself, too much is bad, too small is bad also. That's why they bring in people from abroad to fill the numbers up.
i swear you do like a bit of the old Soylent Green film.
I wouldn't expect it to stop now.
we only sit here from this vantage point because of that.
"oh fuck! we are killing the planet!"...........someone,somewhere allways knew that we would.
the human condition cannot be changed, or the lifetime of the planet imo
It might be prudent to e-mail him (pianka@mail.utexas.edu) to check if YOU are on his hit-list.
So yeah, unless there are plans for somehow reversing the process, we're all pretty well fucked.
Well that's rather good no?
at least we will be finish with this fucked world much faster...
It's our fault anyway, we aimed for quality instead of aiming for quantity of time...
I would seriously doubt the scientists credentials if he said "3 degrees from hell" in that context.
Plus, this planet like everything else needs to regenerate, and that's what's happening.
Us humans, we are pretty smart, I am sure we'll adapt.
And until then, cheers, beer's on me!
Personally I don't know what to think about it as there are so many conflicting stories....I do my best to look after the planet however.
the effects are happening and happening fast.
millions of acres of farmland are drying up ...farming families around the world are being forced off the land as grass and other crops get harder to grow.
rivers are drying up that water millionds of people.
adapt? it's changing to fast mate ...fresh water is going into decline and world food production is expected tp plummet anytime soon.
No one is denying that the effects are happening and fast. What people are contesting is the Global warming theory...
All this drying up, just look at european weather this past week...
Look at the Situation in Serbia for instance.
We will adapt.
We will learn how to harness rain water efficiently.
We will learn to desalinify sea water.
Why?
Coz we got no choice!
http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/people/paul_ehrlich.html
israel already have the worlds biggest desalination supplies operating in the world.
we ...are the wealthy west.
the other two thirds of the worlds population aint going to be so fortunate are they.
and we ...in the west will find that our supermaarkets full of global produce will not be able to be sustained at the levels we currently enjoy.
the world is going to be a much ...much poorer and miserable place for billions.
Long time ago Martin Luter King said the following:
"Our only hope today lies in our ability to recapture the revolutionary spirit and go into a sometimes hostile world declaring eternal hostility to poverty, racism and militarism!"
I do not consider myself to be a part of the wealthy west.
I am a part of the world.
See, China and Japan have had measures for controlling population for a long time now, and with the way that China is developing at the moment, I don't think they will be starving.
Fresh water....There are vast spaces of this earth unexploited, Sibir, Antarctica, Middle Asia etc... They are all rich with space and materials.
Every thing has it's boiling point. Once the current western governments realize that, then we can get on with it.
The problem we've got is the Neo Conservatists in the States and the stupid obsessions of the UK government. Also, having an ex-KGB director as a ruler of a country doesn't help.
People are most dangerous when they are chased down to a dead end corner.
I am sure we will be all right!!
The theory is that global warming keeps being hyped up so governments submit increased power to international organisations...speeding up the move towards a one world government.
has there ever been a nice sensible government? no.
all thats bad in this world ...all thats failing ...is to easily thrown on the governments shoulders ...why?
i know ...and you know ...we have no faith in them ...so how come we are always looking to ...a next benign government to help us out.
we are the problem ...you and me.
we can measure the sea rise that has happened since 1970.
we can measure the 36,000 million cubic metres of ice that broke off recently ...we can measure the fact that all chinas MAIN RIVERS ARE DRYING UP ...RIVERS THAT PROVIDE WATER FOR MILLIONS ...WE CAN SEE THE FAMILIES AROUND THE WORLD BEING DISPLACED FROM THE LAND COS THE LAND WON'T PRODUCE ANYMORE ...IT'S HAPPENING NOW ...NOT TOMMOROW.
OOOOPS CAPS bleedin lock.,
all the other planets are either dead or out of reach.