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Errr...yeah you have.
Errr...what?
*genuinely confused*
I'm saying that not everyone has the same choices due to economic or life cirumstances. (i'm sure I already wrote that)
Life isn't fair, some people have more money and better jobs than others! Stop press!
Eh? You're the one who asked "why would anyone choose to stay in a job they hated?", like you couldn't get your head round that not everyone has a choice.
I've gone on to show how naive and ignorant you are. Accept it, get over it and move on.
You've clearly read into that exactly what you wanted to, and then run with it to suit your agenda. You don't stay in a job you don't like if you can get another one. If getting another one requires extra training or a degree or childcare arrangements then that's another matter entirely.
What are you on about? You said "why would anyone choose to stay in a job they hated?" I've shown you that actually, its not as simple as you make out, you then can't admit it when I've shown you to be wrong. GET OVER IT.
P.S. "You don't stay in a job you don't like if you can get another one." - well quite. Not everyone can.
P.P.S.
"If getting another one requires extra training or a degree or childcare arrangements then that's anotehr matter entirely." - errrr...no its not another matter entirely. Its the reality of people's lives (although who mentioned getting a degree
Good one. :rolleyes:
If not, what's your solution?
I haven't quoted you out of context at all.
*genuinely confused*
No, he's full of shit. I actually have him on ignore so I don't have to read his insane ramblings. Klintock's a man who believes that women are to blame for being sexually assualted don't forget.
Hmm, aside from being totally irrelevent to the topic and therefore not in any way shape or form a refutation of my points, it's also completely and utterly wrong.
Quote me please, or retract the fucker.
If strikes did not exist you and me and everyone else who is not a boss would still be working 48 hours a day, six days a week for shit pay and no benefits, holidays, leave or sick pay, amongst other things. Make no mistake about that.
:banghead:
The point is that a lot of people's lives aren't that simple. Not everyone has "freedom to seek alternative employment", only a moron would think they do. I don't see what the point of hypotheticals is that don't take into account people's everyday reality.
Yep partially unions, partially companies recognising that well paid and motivated workers are better, partly because supply and demand meant that companies had to increase and improve conditions to get and keep their workers.
As a counter question - how do you think these companies to employ them came about in the first place?
Blagsta, if privilege and naivity is so bad, would it not be worse if somebody did not take the opportunities that are available to them?
Words fail me. :rolleyes:
This just shows how sheltered you are.
Bov is short for bothered. As in 'Am I bovered?'.
bladg ...what kind of business did you once have?
A very good point.
I won’t deny that historically trade unions have been of some significance in improving rights for workers. Although it’s hardly fair to wholly attribute improvements to the trade unions; unless that is your unfamiliar with one nation conservatism, the liberal reforms and some of the Quaker businesses – most famously Cadbury’s. Anyway once the trade unions achieved those landmark improvements their role became redundant to an extent. Certainly since then trade unions have done more bad than good – they wrecked the likes of British Leyland and brought Britain to its knees in the 70s. The biggest beneficiaries of trade unions these days are their general secretaries on six figure salaries with a free Jag.
Strikes had a historic purpose, for the most part they don’t anymore. Unions are redundant. The market is reflecting that as the minority of people in unions gets smaller each year...
Look at working rights and conditions in countries where there are no unions or they have no power or influence.
I'll ask you what Blagsta has asked to various people dozens of times over time (a question for which he's still waiting for an answer I believe): Do you think that even a single working right we have today came down from heaven, or was perhaps given away by employers? Or did they come to be as a result of workers' actions?
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take a look at the villages some of the cotton mill owners built for their workers ...with scenic parks and playgrounds.
take a look at joeseph rowntree.