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lazy frogs..
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airline slams french air traffic controllers......
http://www.jet2.com/News.aspx?id=65
where is the p.c brigade?
made me giggle a bit, but do you think this is a good approach from the company?
http://www.jet2.com/News.aspx?id=65
where is the p.c brigade?
made me giggle a bit, but do you think this is a good approach from the company?
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As always with a solution based on violence, this doesn't work long term.
All unions should be disbanded as legal entities, as should corporations.
So you know about them too? I thought I was the only one
Doesn't mean you have to support every union or every strike though.........
I notice you didn't bother answering my question.
Just a thought, like.
don't know all the ins and outs of this dispute but it must get annoying for companies that rely on them.
The French strike a lot more than people here, but that does not mean they're always at it. I'm sure there are countless companies that have never been affected by strike action, or very rarely at the most.
As a result, I would imagine the working rights and conditions of the average British worker don't fare too well next those of a French worker. Look at the number of hours we have to put with in this country for instance.
problem is when unions get too much power and the country gets held to ransom every other week,then it becomes a true pain in the arse.
we just seem to take whatever shit management throws at us in this country for fear of loosing our jobs.we could do with getting a back bone i suppose.
If you really think that continually falling working hours is what workers necessarily want and need then you are more deluded than I thought. It's all very well harping on about directors' bonuses but in reality even the salaries of the highest paid bosses represent a tiny proportion of their companies' profits. Do you not think that somebody who has built up a business from scratch, a plumber or shopkeeper for example, is entitled to benefit from the fruits of his labour? Does that change when the business employs additional staff?
Striking should be a last resort and for the French it seems it isn't. Jet2 is being a bit petulant in publishing that statement, but as its business depends on flying planes, it makes a fair point.
Personally I'm all for it - French companies become less threatening to British in the global market. and for the millions of unemployed French with a spark of ambition they can come across the Channel for a job and lectures us on the superiority of French employment law whilst serving me from MacDonalds on minimum wage.
On a more serious note - the law doesn't really damage the middle class protesters (especially the organisers) who'll be able to get jobs whether this system was in place or not. it does condemn many in the French ghettoes to perpetual unemployment and makes the French economy less and less able to sustain the social benefits they are so keen on.
No, you are right. Workers would rather get paid shit per hour and having to work 60 hours a week to bring bread to the table than working 38-40 hours at a decent wage.
And how selfish of those who think different! What a shameful explotaition of their hard-pressed employers.
Good. So that means there are plenty more profits to pay the floor workers decent wages, right? No excuses not to, correct?
Look at this:
"executives in the country's 100 biggest companies gave themselves pay rises six times as large (288%) as their employees (45%) in just a decade."
from here
You don't see anything wrong with that?
Not even when the company is actually sacking workers because they claim they can't afford them?
Yes, the employer is taking someone out of unemployment. That's better than having a few people getting richer but many more being unemployed, is it not?
The point presumably being "if it were down to us we would sack all workers who do as much as making a passing comment about their employment and the ungrateful bastards should just be grateful we give them semi-slave wages for their dead-end jobs. Off with their heads."
Not if you worked in a kitchen or factory in a really tedious job you wouldn't.
Sorry, the fruits of who's labour?
...and then sit back, do fuck all while other people do the work.
Yes, I used to run a business.
Oh don't be so daft. The point is that many business owners (shareholders) don't do fuck all. Other business owners direct resources and labour, but don't actually do much more than that. Workers are quite capable of directing their own labour. In revolutionary situations where workers have taken control of their own workplace, productivity and efficiency has often gone up. After all - who knows best how to do something? The person doing it? Or some manager at the top who's never worked on the shop floor?
Anyway, this all completely ignores the fact that at the end of the day, profits come from paying workers less than the value of their labour - and if anything threatens the constant effort to increase profits, its the workers who cop the shit, not the owners.
Your problem Kentish is that you don't actually have a clue how capitalism actually works (despite repeated threads on the subject).
Profit comes from charging customers more for a product than it cost to make.
People get paid what they are worth or they ....... swap jobs!!
If they can't swap jobs then they can't be being paid less than they are worth, can they?
Your quite right about workplaces being better run if those who work in a place are getting a share of the profits, after all everyone only works for incentive.
Shame we don't have capitalsim ofc, only state managed collectivism.
And you're right - I'm no economist - but I am still allowed an opinion on who directs my labour.
I'm guessing you never worked as an office temp or in a factory or warehouse or shop.