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I think he was trying to make a similatr point as me- that age is irrelevant, and you will ahve sex when you're ready, not when the law says you can.
That might have been what you were saying, but i don't see thats what hes saying
Still, underage sex is really common amongst my group at school. I'd say, about 1/2 to 3/5 of us have had sex, and of that, 1/2 of us were in a serious relationship at the time. We're all pretty mature, though. None of us have gotten pregnant so far. But it varies amongst the certain friendship groups - to a lot of people in my year, sex seems a long way off.
I, myself, don't agree with 11, 12 or 13 year olds having sex. It does happen a lot around here, but its entirely exclusive to the chavvy, boozy lot, who sleep with guys my bfs age and above. I'm not sure whether to pity them, or enjoy witnessing their demise (they don't like me much, see).
At 14, I thought myself mature enough, and in a loving enough relationship with my bf (who I've now been with for a year and a half), to go through with it. His foster parents seem to know about it, though. I suspect his sister told them. They won't allow me in his room, or around their house when they're out, because they said that if we broke up, I would have him prosecuted for forcing me into it :mad:. They won't even let us watch tv alone.
There is a trend to teenage motherhood. There are currently 2 teenage mothers in our year (year 11), and a couple more through the years above and below. Both were pretty much, er, promiscuous. One had her baby when she was 13, the other last year. The latter is pretty much a normal girl - clever and with ambition, but she slept around, and had apparently already had 2 or 3 abortions :no:.
(long time lurker's first post, hi all)
a 14 or 15 year old having sex is not the most terrible or unusual thing in the world.
a 13 year old having sex though, is unusual and not a great thing.
I lost mine before i was 16 - i was in love with the guy and he was just about to go to live in another country and i knew if i didnt do itwith him id regret it my whole life. We did it twice and im so glad i did it. It was the perfect way to say goodbye even though i was ultra sad when he went but i wuda been anyway.
Basically imo, i do agree that 11 year olds is a bit wrong and they cant be ready at the age, but i think 14 is an apporpriate age as long as its ok for both parties, they are using protection, and it aint harming anyone else.
"The Mall" lol so American. Teens still do that shit
Because sexual relationships are intrinsic to the adult human experience. Abstinence promotes the continuance of childish innocence which is not how widespread respect is derived from peers.
On a sidenote I can't believe people are suggesting raising the age of consent to 18. That's totally fucked up!
How so?
I think in the teen world, underage sex is seen as no big deal.
I think that going soely by numbers, maturity, looks etc that sex at 14 or 15, while isn't something I'd encourage, its not unusual or that terrible.
I think sex education does need to be improved, but they need to discuss sex itself and make sure its all clear. Make sure they know that sex isn't an easy thing, make sure they know you can have hang ups from it, you can get std's from it, you can get pregnant from it, you don't have to do it if you don't want to. They should empthaise that as well as saying its a ntaural thing, its doen for pelasure and can be great fun and is oten best when in a relationship of love.
Sexual maturity is obviously subjective, but I don't believe ANY 14 year old is truly mature enough for sex no matter how much they say they are/were.
Sex is for adults, not for children.
Ilora x
Doubt I could have had sex if I wanted to!!!!
Indeed. This is why I think it should be raised to 18, however it won't stop 'children' from having sex though.
But why?
I haven't seen one rationale why this should be so.
16/17 year olds aren't children for fuck's sake! As you say it won't stop anything so what's the point?
You pay taxes...can smoke and get married...yet should be criminalised for having sex? Get real. :rolleyes:
Too many teenagers are molly-coddled enough as it is without passing sickeningly moralistic and unnatural laws against people who finished puberty years ago.
What a load of bollocks.
At 14 I was having sex, I was ready for it, I've never regretted it and I was doing it safely. What's wrong with that?
Lowering the age of consent will make people like me when i was a teenager feel more pressure.
If your pressured into sex it's not the law at fault. Have sex when you want, when you getthe urge - whether it be when you 14 or 40.
Don't deny your urges, only a fool does that.
Maybe. Don't think anyone's suggesting that it should be lowered though (the main problem being predatory balding men) but certainly for many people it's perfectly fine.
I think the age of consent is fine as it is, you will get problems if it's lowered or highered you can't win either way if someone wants to have sex they will do it.
Also in response to ilora-danon you mentioned something about children having sex and insinuated that parents encourage them by giving them contraception because they feel if the kids are gonna do they might as well be safe, in my opinion if my daughter (not that i have any kids) was having sex in a stable relationship and she was only 14-15 i would rather her be using condoms rather then risking pregnancy.
At least it shows that teenagers are taking some responsibility in trying to practice safe sex after all not all teenagers have underage sex and get pregnant or get stds what about the ones that do practice safe sex. Just 'cause you don't hear about them only the bad ones doesn't meen there aren't teenagers enjoying sex responsibly.
Last year in summer I was 19 and attracted to a 15 year old. This was scratching roughly on my ethic border so I did not pursue.
I know a girl which is 17 now, and I have been attracted to her, when we were 18/15. Which was perfectly ok for me. She is the most mature girl I know for a girl in her teens (really amazing. Looking up to her pretty often.) Maybe this stems from her having a lot of BFs already and many sexual experience.
Atm. I am attracted to a girl (I should say woman), a bit older then me
It seems to be more ok than originally expected, even tho she stands fulltime in joblife etc. Cannot predict the future, so this will be a 'learning by doing' experience.
I think that it is unacceptable for anybody who is not completely comfortable with the idea and their partner, no matter what their age. But I think there are under 16's that are mature enough to have sex and to do it safely and responsibly, and that they shouldn't all be written off as slags.
An girl at my school who is now doing her GCSEs gave someone a blowjob in the toilets when she was 11. She has a label of a slag, and 4 years down the line people are still talking about it and everybody knows who she is. I wonder if that would be any different if she was 12, 15 or even 17 when it happened.