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Us big masculine mysogynist oafs :rolleyes:
it does seem unfair that women are only able to reproduce for a short space of time, whereas men can go on doing it till god knows when! damn nature.
at my old school there was a guy in the year above me, his dad NEVER came to parents evenings or to plays etc, when i found out why - his dad was in his 80s! When this boy was still at primary school....
Like I said, nature isn't equal opportunities. It sucks. Tough shit.
The responsibility we feel we have as a "developed" race, is to make sure that we don't exacerbate that inequality.
Thats not nessessarily true, sperm count drops.
did anyone else see that 63 year old woman who got IVF? it wasnt in this country, but i think that's wrong....
Totally agree, its pathetic to have IVF at such an age.
mother nature preferred the older men onviously
Well having babies as a teenager isn't usually a particularly great idea, is it?
And what's wrong with improving/increasing sex education? Surely reducing pregnancies amongst teens, promoting safe sex etc is beneficial for society?
You're making out as if women are being victimised here, which i have to say is bullshit.
The problem is not statuing that leaving babies until late is a problem, the problem is that women who have babies in the "ideal" time-frame are then vilified by Government ministers for "wasting the investment placed in them".
Motherhood is not seen as the vitally important career that it should be. Regular posters on here have said before that parenthood is not a job (presumably it's an interesting hobby)- that is the problem. Women are being told that parenthood is not something to strive for, both by Government ministers saying they should be at work paying tax, and by Feminazis saying that motherhood restricts women and removes their freedom.
When parenthood is considered a career of the same magnitude as being a doctor, teacher, or lawyer, then we may have a much better society.
Another sympton of this is the push from many areas for increased childcare coverage.
If you are going to have a jid just to put them in chuldcare and go back to work as soon asa possible then maybe you should not be having a kid at all (unless it is a financial necessity, which I beleieve it isn't for most people......)
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I have that question too, I guess it depends on what you constitute as "necessary".
It comes to a balance between the well being you can give to the child through the things you can buy them by working versus the well being you can give them by being with them....
Of course single parents have less choice but if there are two parents then I think it would be preferable that at the least only one parent works full-time.
If you are not prepared to bring up the child yourself then why did you have it?
This is why the push for more and more childcare is somewhat worrying, it doesn't seem right to me........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1573214,00.html
It is amazing how many bad things capitalism is responsible for!!!
Yet we still stick with it, we must be mad!!
Also its probably worth noting that some of the regimes which rewarded parenthood and nuturing the younger generation were not the nicest regimes in existence
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Women_Nazi_Germany.htm
I got told that 26 is too old to have kids. :eek2:
That was in North Wales though.
Having children and looking after them as a "career" usually isn't viable because it reduces profit and requires support.
Seriously? A friend of mine thinks that's very young...
Reduces whose profit?
In what kind of society do children not require support?
The simple fact is that not all women make a conscious decision to seek a career in a hard-nosed way, deliberately putting off having children. I'm 35 and I have a career and no children, but I'm not ambitious I have just always worked through necessity. I didn't meet the man I have been with for ten years until I was in my mid twenties and there's no way we would have rushed into living with eachother let alone having children. He earns less than me and is also reluctant to start a family. I have had to wait until the time is right for us both.
There's always been attempts to rubbish working mothers (NOTE: NOT working Parents!!) just as much as there's been a tendancy to look down on those who choose not to work, prefering to stay at home with their children and take a traditional role when the man is prepared to be the main breadwinner. I don't think people realise how bloody hard it is to find a man who is prepared to follow these tratitional roles.
YES - the risks to the foetus are slightly higher after about the age of 35, and fertility rates in women do drop, they also drop in men who smoke, take drugs, drink etc. I'm fed up with people telling me I need to start having kids NOW because the day after my 35th birthday I suddenly became more at risk of having difficulties! there are as many risks to a mother and a relationship when you have kids very young.
I'd like it if my boyfriend could take the same amount of maternity leave as me, I'd like it if he agreed to stay at home and look after the kids while I carried on working. It would make more sense seeing as by some fluke I earn almost twice as much as him.
Welcome back...
Anyway...
Sorry but this makes no sense.
What profit and what kind of support are you talking about?
Are you talking about how families often need two incomes?
Economic and social changes over the past 20 years or so mean that most families have to have both parents working now to make ends meet.
Some, but it has also been forced on people.
Itsdebateable how many need to and how many like my wife want to to return to work for more than just a pure economic need.
The flipside is that we have a lot less children leaving school at fourteen to go and support their families
In what way?
What changes are you talking about then...