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manchester shopping centre stops goff girl entering
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"cause she'll put of customers"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15599732%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=banned%2dfrom%2dshops%2d%2d%2dbecause%2dshe%2ds%2da%2dgoth-name_page.html
so theyll be so hard pressed to find another boots, mcdonalds, topshop, hmv etc
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15599732%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=banned%2dfrom%2dshops%2d%2d%2dbecause%2dshe%2ds%2da%2dgoth-name_page.html
so theyll be so hard pressed to find another boots, mcdonalds, topshop, hmv etc
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As I have said before, they wouldn't dare do it do an adult.
People treat young adults as vermin, and then wonder why kids say "fuck you" to the world and go and trash phone boxes.
For all this talk of "respect" in government, it seems that little has changed from when children were expected to be not seen and not heard. Respect works both ways, it's bizarre how it's only the weakest and least enfranchised in society who suffer this trouble.
If 16-year-olds could vote maybe politicians would start listening a bit more.
I think companies always have and always will try to maximise profits and exclude whoever makes this more possible. It's not ethical, but it makes money.
I also noticed it was half-term holidays last week, which would account for the increase.
Shurely shome mishtake?
Seriosuly though, I didn't think it would be the type of place a goth would want to go into - it's trendy.
ETA - that isn't meant offensively. I can't phrase it any other way though.
So much for the Dear Leader going on about 'respect'. Can they really blame the young people who tell the authoritarian fuckwits in power where to get off when they adopt this sort of attitude?
There are dress codes all over the place, don't see why it's such a big deal. :chin: Go into a fancy restuarant wearing greasy dirty jeans, they'll probably ask you to leave. Etc. etc. etc.
The thing is people stereotype and often these stereotypes are based on media icons. I can't think of any positive 'goth' icons of today... If you can call the music 'goth'.
But if you bring in more people by not letting in people who look a certain way...? They just want to bring in more customers like middle aged and older genration people (with more money than teenagers) who will buy stuff than letter teenagers 'scare them away'.
I may be a bit posh in this regard but I think if you're going out to a high street shopping centre then you should be dressed appropriately smart. Not OTT, but looking like marilyn manson is more something I'd expect to see at halloween, not everyday.
And to moonrat: I wasn't responding to your experience individually, and having read it it does seem a case of unfair discrination based on prejudice. But then again, if the customers prefer not to see people dressed as goths; well a happy customer is what business is all about!
I don't think that makes you a bit posh. A bit naive maybe, and definitely a bit pretentious.
And it should also be applied fairly and consistently.
The girl could go in with her mum, but not with her friends? Why the inconsistency?
Would she have got in if she'd been wearing tight Miss Sixty jeans that gave her four arse-cheeks and a tank top from Republic? "Smartness" has to work for all, not just clientele that aren't wanted.
Speaking for myself, if somewhere or someone doesn't like how I'm dressed, then they can go fuck themselves. If they won't let me in I don't want to go in.
The amusing thing is that I was at work today in a solicitor's chambers wearing something not that much different to that girl. Odd how standards change.
That's what I said in one of my posts
Perhaps a solicitors chambers panders to all sorts of people, whereas they are trying to attract the people with the most money in a shopping market..
I quite agree, shame you beat me to my edit.
Good. I thought you were arguing that she deserved it because of "the rules". Which you kind of were, really, at least you appreciate the need for consistency.
The stupid thing is that the goths probably have more money than a lot of adults. There's a reason why adolescent marketing is a growth area.
I was merely commenting how odd it is that working as a solcitor's clerk requires a lower dress sense than shopping in a horrible clone centre.
:eek2:
Why the hell do you need to look smart to go shopping on the high street? Money is money and with spending falling shops should just be thankful of a sale.
If that's the case then the guys who implemented this are going to be out of a job soon when sales revenue starts to fall
It's a very strange world... I'm not too keen on shopping centres and buy most things online, I only go to them when I go out with friends for the day to town. And even then, we tend to stick to high street shops or other shops than going in the Shires (which doesn't have much, except a small WH smiths (when there's a big one outside) and a place that does nice cookies! Oh, and a virgin too, but they have extortionate prices)/
True, it's just my personal opinion though. :chin:
Depends where you look.
Sales are actually down in the market as a whole, and "bad debt" in the banks is up. Perhaps Bluewater shouldn't start turning down custom.
And if I was refused access to a centre like that, the last thing I would do is run to The Mirror for a bit of cash out of it. I would just make a mental note not to spend any cash there again. I noted she came from Denton...
or use the rock of justice...but that might be going too far.
:shocking:
Would you sue for discrimination if you were turned away from a nightclub because you weren't dressed in a manner that pleased them?
I don't think turning her away is the issue here, more that the inconsistency in which it is applied, and the lack of information. They seem to just stop people on the door, when it is obviously a popular shopping area where people go to so why no warning of the new regulations to how people dress?
So you are for freedom on your own terms only? Yes, race matters when people are discriminated against on the colour of their skin, like in the scenario mentioned. You're for freedom only for people in a position of power. That ain't freedom.
Unlimited freedom for every individual?
Thats nice dear
:wave:
You are free to not let a person into your house due to thier ethnicity because you own your house. Shopkeepers should be extended the same right.