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Hi LadyJade,
it's true what you say but phenylalanine is in all the diet soft drinks aswell, I don't know much about phenylalanine but surely if it's in soft drinks its not a big problem? unless diet drinks would be stopped?
well thats you...i know people who get either mild or no comedowns at all and i know people who can take them only now and again....it's different for everyone...
Ive had bad come downs and no come downs on e's, but then I've had bad hangovers off beer, point is i'll do them both again because the night before was worth it! have you stopped drinking because of a hangover?
*legalise cannabis but get rid of BUSH (he's full of shit!)*
unless BZP has undergone extensive (expensive!) medical trials, then this is bullshit.
Most pills contain one of a short list of researched chemicals, MDXX family type drugs whose action is roughly understood, amphetamines which are well known and possibly Ket, which again has under gone extensive trials.
Compared to BZP your average esctasy pill is like a prescription tablet.
*Rant over*
But warnings are important.
It is when you compare it to many everday activities that most people don't give a second though to.
Ahh, but then we are wandering into the world of relative risk, and thats very different from something being 'safe'.
There isn't much in life that's 'safe'. I consider it safe much like I consider alcohol to be safe - very safe if used properly though quite damaging if abused.
If you lived a life that was completely safe you'd have no life at all.
Now we are talking semantics, and you win already Bong, you are much more pedantic than I am.
Huruh!
Seriously though, it is easy to get relative risk confused, you only have to look at this latest food scare to realise that. This is why drugs education needs to be really truthful, any exageration of the risk/dangers will be seen as lies.
As much of lie as declaring horseriding, fishing or crossing a busy road as safe.
Safe is a measure of risk and everybody gives it a different value. For me, ecstasy is safe.
Also the fact that they are safe 'for you' semi-acknowledges the idea that its a definition that cannot be extended to all people.
i would suggest that that statistic is turned on its head when one considers that there has been very little suggestion that horse riding might be dangerous for certain people in terms of long term mental health
i seriously dont need any medical evidence at all to at least strongly suggest that for some people the possibility of repeated ecstasy use being an antagonist for other mental health problems.
I would say that the perception of horse riding is less risky than it actually is and that the use of MDMA is seen as more risky than it actually is.
the most ignorant thing i've ever heard...taking drugs, its stupid, its ... just...stupid.
now if i told you one the most wonderfully insightful experiences of your life could be inside this pill, and you considered it, would that be stupid?
was it stupid of Guthrie to test chloroform on himself, for the possible applications that lay beyond it.
drug education is one of the few areas of sencondary education where no dicussion or contestation is really tolerated or sought, people are taught like sponges (just absorbing everything) and so they act like it when faced with a problem.
None of us would be stupid enough to argue drug use comes with no risk, but its important to get that risk in proper perception.
When someone takes ecstasy, the focus cannot just be on the pill, for the actual pill is not the majority of the equation. It doesnt make you high, your body reacts and makes you high, therefore each individual makeup is going to be as vital as the pill. Figuring out the contents of your own head is harder than that of a pill.