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Should I take Ecstacy???
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Hi.
I am in my teens and was wondering should I do XTC.
Currently, I drink a lot, smoke weed now and again.
I am debating whether or not to try XTC as drinking gets a bit boring?
The only thing stopping me is that I have a heart murmur, and I'm not sure if I could have a nasty reaction to the drug?
I have also seen P.E.P pills on eBay? Does anyone know anything about them?
Hope someone gets back soon.
Cheers
I am in my teens and was wondering should I do XTC.
Currently, I drink a lot, smoke weed now and again.
I am debating whether or not to try XTC as drinking gets a bit boring?
The only thing stopping me is that I have a heart murmur, and I'm not sure if I could have a nasty reaction to the drug?
I have also seen P.E.P pills on eBay? Does anyone know anything about them?
Hope someone gets back soon.
Cheers
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You say you're in your teens? how old exactly? It definitely isn't wise to do them at a young age as your brain is still developing and may cause problems, maybe not in the short term but in the long term.
If you have any doubts about your health, especially heart problems then the risks of something bad happening increases.
I've never heard of pep pills in my entire life, what the fuck are they!?
If you think you've got heart problems then it probably wouldn't be the wisest idea to drop pills but i don't know you, most people in their teens who take pills are relatively fine and don't worry about a thing.
That's what I mean.
I realise there are better ways to enjoy my evening, I guess I haven't found them yet.
The answer is probably Yes, I would do pills, but I'm concerned of the risks.
www.erowid.org is a good place to start
Well until you are more secure with yourself about the risks then there's fuck all anyone can say, i remember before i tried them i was very weary about taking them because of all the bad media press surrounding pills.
There is a warning in the PEP pill information specifically stating So I guess that means a no for you. It is also worth mentioning that with a pre existing heart condition, you are in the higher risk category for drug taking and should give this some careful consideration. I would even recommend you get medical advice.
:yes:
As for taking these PEP pills with ephedrine in them, I wouldnt, that can cause an irregular heart beat, something I'm sure you dont need, especially with your condition.
in saying all that, i wish i'd never taken pills because what you dont know youre missing out on doesnt hurt you. whereas now its harder to say no.
Ooooh! Get you! Fair point though, was a bit sloppy of me.
surely you can have a good night without them!?
true but you can have a good night out without drink, still doesnt stop people getting wasted, same goes with E's, as for nodiggity, yea what blagsta said.
If you've got any problems with your heart, you're better off to avoid taking pills, or uppers generally. I know a bird with a heart murmour, and she won't take ecstasy as a result...which is probably a wise decision.
You can give magic mushrooms a go for something different anyway.
I've been taking a shitload of pills recently, yeah it's good, especially at first, but too much E runs you down after a while...makes you feel shitty, anxious, depressed...and of course no-one really knows the long-term effects (fucking up your brain chemistry and all that sort of stuff).
Stick with dope :thumb: .
There is nuthing better, however there is nuthin worse.
After a couple of years the come-downs are too hard to handle... :nervous:
QUESTION:
What the hell are PEP pills? and on ebay.... don't be silly...
ANSWER:
Well they don't contain caffiene and epherdrine like most people think, they are a step ahead of all other legal highs, already banned in USA and Australia (because of its active ingredients) only available in UK at the moment, they came onto the sceen in october 2004 at the London Hemp Fair and went down a storm, since then people have been raving about them, try reading the review in the UK's Red Eye Express Magazine, Issue 17, article Alternative Highs.
As for Ebay, If you check now you will notice that the seller is no longer a registered user, this is because Ebay believed them to be drugs and suspended them, just because they were sold on ebay don't think they don't work, believe me, I take them and theres not much difference to e, except you know they don't contain any rat poisen, brick dust etc that is allegedly in e's.
Pep Pills were developed as a drug harm minimisation solution, basically an alternative to illegal drugs, you can think what you want about this but they do work, if any of you want more info on them email me or post a message.
nodiggity, if you have a heart murmur then don't take xtc or Pep pills, they will both cause an elevated heart rate which you don't need, I wouldn't advise anyone with any heart or liver condition to take pep pills or to combine with any medicines or drugs.
As for ephadrine and caffine causing the same effect as MDMA, I would be somewhat dubious about that.
There is NO rat poison in pills, there never has been, thats a lie.
And brick dust, well its possible, probably wouldnt do you any harm even if they did go to the bother of making pills from that when chalk is MUCH easier.
What's in 'em then?
wey hey, a negative response!
you haven't even tried them and your being negative! have you ever tried anything or are you just dead against drugs?
i am only trying to inform people of what they are, not pushing them, if i wanted to do that i would just spam the site.
if you actually read my post you would know that they don't contain caffine. They actually contain peperzines, which are well known to mimic the effects of MDMA, try reading about them and trying them before you kick off, or ask people who have taken them.
they were developed as a drug harm minimisation solution because the person who developed them lost a close relative through bad illegal drug containing other things.
anyway, you carry on your negative life, maybe you'll turn positive one day and ask questions instead of presuming everything that you don't do is wrong.
Not trying to argue, but if your just going to be negative?
it says on the packaging a few things but reading up on it i have found that Piperazines must be the active ingredient
i found this site:
http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=6443
which tells of its similarities to MDMA
Is is actually legal to sell those here?
I dont mean to be overtly negative, but well every other 'pep pill' I've ever seen has been either rubbish or dangerous. I'd suggest that mixing two very un-researched chemicals is probably more dangerous than MDMA.
BZP from what I've read is on the Controlled substances list in the USA as of March 2004, but isn't on any of the UK controlled substances lists?
It was placed on the US controlled substances list because of 1 case in 1996 (i think that was the year) when a woman died in Sweden but she had also taken e, they did not state that her death was linked to BZP but points towards the e (to much water intake), therefore in the nine years since no one else has died (for want of a better sentance).
I found a site that said it was a controlled substance in Some Australian States, USA, Sweden and Greece.
As for the hangover, i can only go from my experience with taking them and the come down wasn't great, smoother than e, more tired than anything as i didn't get to sleep untill about 6am, it does say not to drink too much alcohol with them which i ignored, but it did seem to make me want to dance more and smile alot.
I know what you mean about the shite legal highs, I've tried most and all they seem to do is posibbly give more energy, which when you are drinking vodka redbulls, energy is the last thing you need (haha).
As for being researched chemicals, how do you know what your getting in an e?
Thanks for your reply bongbudda, as you can probably guess im new to this forum and actually every forum, first time ive posted anything, was searching for more info on these pep pills and came up with this forum, so if anyone has anything to help me please email or post a message.
Didn't really know what forums were but have found them quite interesting, thought it was one of them chat rooms were you only got negative responses or abuse.
not this place mate...though other boards do have some of those negative elements.