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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Other than mine, which ones?

    pretty much just yours.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin
    pretty much just yours.

    What about the one that the lovely kermie has highlighted?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I understand the sentiment that that money could have been spent on something more "worthwhile", but I believe that only the donor has the right to decide what is worthwhile and what is not.

    I donate money to St Gemma's, CAFOD and CHUF. Quite a lot of people would disagree with the first two, fewer would disagree with the latter charity but even so, why should we spend money on a heart unit when kids don't have clean water?

    The donor has the right to decide what cause is the most worthy of his hard-earned wedge. Insulting him for his charity is simply not on, IMHO.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    Indeed. This is true. Maybe people could get their head around this point before they try and belittle people with different points of view to theirs.
    No one's belittling you or anyone else. They are challenging your view, which is perfectly legitimate. It's up to you to defend it or back down.

    I really don't think it's worth getting your knickers in a twist over.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    Maybe people could get their head around this point before they try and belittle people with different points of view to theirs.

    Said by the woman who attacked the Mansfield donors as "shallow" and "wasting their money on a shithole".

    Oh, the irony.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    I understand the sentiment that that money could have been spent on something more "worthwhile", but I believe that only the donor has the right to decide what is worthwhile and what is not.

    I donate money to St Gemma's, CAFOD and CHUF. Quite a lot of people would disagree with the first two, fewer would disagree with the latter charity but even so, why should we spend money on a heart unit when kids don't have clean water?

    The donor has the right to decide what cause is the most worthy of his hard-earned wedge. Insulting him for his charity is simply not on, IMHO.

    Ok, I maybe went about it the wrong way but I'm sure I got my point of view across. I don't believe the lights fund is a charity, therefore it isn't worthwhile in my opinion. It's all a bunch of sentimental bullshit. I just feel that people miss the point a great deal.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    Ok, I maybe went about it the wrong way but I'm sure I got my point of view across. I don't believe the lights fund is a charity, therefore it isn't worthwhile in my opinion. It's all a bunch of sentimental bullshit. I just feel that people miss the point a great deal.

    That depends entirly upon how important you think christmas is.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    What about the one that the lovely kermie has highlighted?

    opinion, which she is entitled to. not a personal insult.

    if she went up to a specific person in mansfield and said 'you are a shallow arsehole', then i'd have a problem with it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    Said by the woman who attacked the Mansfield donors as "shallow" and "wasting their money on a shithole".

    Oh, the irony.

    I don't feel these statements were belittling anyone.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin
    opinion, which she is entitled to. not a personal insult.

    if she went up to a specific person in mansfield and said 'you are a shallow arsehole', then i'd have a problem with it.

    Can't say I've ever done this, maybe felt like it from time to time but have never done it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    I don't feel these statements were belittling anyone.
    Apart from the shallow wasters and everyone who lives in Mansfield... :lol:

    Give it up chuck :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    I just feel that people miss the point a great deal.

    The point of what, exactly?

    You don't know what else they donated to, you don't know what else they feel strongly about. Just because they disagree with your idea of "worthwhile" doesn't mean that they "miss the point", it just means that they don't agree with your idea of "worthwhile".

    Why do you think that your idea of "worthwhile" takes precedence over somebody else's?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    That depends entirly upon how important you think christmas is.

    Oh I think christmas can be extremely important if you have people to share it with but it's not about the material things in my mind.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    entirly
    Uh-oh. I spy a spelling error.

    sp x10
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    That depends entirly upon how important you think christmas is.

    Oh I think christmas can be extremely important if you have people to share it with but it's not about the material stuff in my mind.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    Oh I think christmas can be extremely important if you have people to share it with but it's not about the material things in my mind.

    So, spending money, to spread the word that this is a time of year for family, friends and generosity, and to celebrate the birth of the saviour of all mankind. Not a good enough reason?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    So, spending money, to spread the word that this is a time of year for family, friends and generosity, and to celebrate the birth of the saviour of all mankind. Not a good enough reason?

    Ha! It may be about celebrating the birth of jesus christ our saviour but I think that's a load of bullshit as well.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Uh-oh. I spy a spelling error.

    sp x10

    crap

    crapcrapcrapcrapcrap.

    I hate the letter 'e'. It's official.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    Ha! It may be about celebrating the birth of jesus christ our saviour but I think that's a load of bullshit as well.

    dingdingdingdingding. You've hit the belittling other people alarm. Not really for you to judge is it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Apart from the shallow wasters and everyone who lives in Mansfield... :lol:

    Give it up chuck :)

    I think that's probably the best advice I've recieved all day.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    dingdingdingdingding. You've hit the belittling other people alarm. Not really for you to judge is it.

    I'm not particularly judging anyone. I think Christianity is so hypocritical it's beyond belief but that's a whole different debate.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    I'm not particularly judging anyone. I think Christianity is so hypocritical it's beyond belief but that's a whole different debate.

    No, actually, saying you think it's a load of bullshit is belittling someone else's belief, and saying that's a reason to stop them from giving money to christmas lights is judgement. What really makes me wonder, is why people think christianity is hypocritical, and no other faith is...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    Ha! It may be about celebrating the birth of jesus christ our saviour but I think that's a load of bullshit as well.

    There you go again, thinking that your beliefs are better than everyone else's.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    There you go again, thinking that your beliefs are better than everyone else's.

    I never once said my beliefs are better than anyone's.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    I never once said my beliefs are better than anyone's.

    No, you did.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    No, actually, saying you think it's a load of bullshit is belittling someone else's belief, and saying that's a reason to stop them from giving money to christmas lights is judgement. What really makes me wonder, is why people think christianity is hypocritical, and no other faith is...

    You've taken me the wrong way love. I didn't say that it should stop anyone from giving some money to a lights fund and I highlighted christianity because that was the religion we were referring to.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    You've taken me the wrong way love. I didn't say that it should stop anyone from giving some money to a lights fund and I highlighted christianity because that was the religion we were referring to.

    No, I havn't taken you the wrong way at all. Everything you've said has highlighted your own high-horse and dismissive attitude to anyone else's point of view.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    No, you did.

    I'm not going to do the - 'you did. I didn't' thing because it's not very productive is it? I don't think my beliefs are better than anyone else's. I have my beliefs, you have yours and we'll all be happy together. ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Madgal99
    I'm not going to do the - 'you did. I didn't' thing because it's not very productive is it? I don't think my beliefs are better than anyone else's. I have my beliefs, you have yours and we'll all be happy together. ;)

    well I'm glad you've managed to TOTALLY change your point of view in such a short space of time.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    No, I havn't taken you the wrong way at all. Everything you've said has highlighted your own high-horse and dismissive attitude to anyone else's point of view.

    And you're telling me you've never been that high you couldn't get back down again? :yeees:
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