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You truely have no understanding of political ideology, fascists and neo-cons are in no way 'socialist'
4x4 doesn't have to be used off road.
this is one seriously hilly area ...as i said ...once the road freezes my son cannot get home without one ...and he lives in the middle of a town.
i have just been to ruthin livestock market with a mate ...there must have been three hundred plus 4x4's ...there goes three hundred liberal votes then.
all this talk of danger is pointless. just keep out of the fucking way!
i need to be able to pull a trailer on road and off ...an escort van won't do the job.
you've all been brainwashed.
your all mad.
your all jealous.
what about newage travellers who on the whole claim to be green ...driving clapped out third hand busses?
what about my question about 2litre diesel engines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
world gone fucking mad ...
Go back to your cereal box politics and try again.
More proof that you're an idiot. It's basic physics. Go back to school.
Are you on drugs?
What kind of car does your mum drive?
Also, for the arguement, not everyone in canada drives a 4x4. And it really snows there.
Most people can't drive in this snow not because of their vehicle, but because they are stupid. I've seen 4x4 after 4x4 get stuck in snow because the silly blonde bint driving it floors the thing in 1st gear. Not that this is of any strict relevance.
If you live in the country you can make an argument for needing a 4x4. Last time I checked, you didn't need a 4x4 to go to the Waitrose half a mile away and back.
No, they shouldn't be banned, but doubling the c-zone levy for them would be a good start. Along with vans and campers.
Caravans I would ban.
What about the jobs that would be lost if extreme measures against 4x4 drivers were passed? Aren’t Land Rovers/Range Rovers made in England?
and i aint talking snow ...i'm talking friggin ice.
What about them?
If people could only buy mid-range cars, those factories would make mid-range cars. Market forces.
I'd be more worried about the foreigners owning UK car companies, and then shutting the plants and moving them all to dagoland.
A 1.8 Mondeo is far mroe economical than a 4x4.
Ellie's parents get 19 miles out of a gallon of petrol in their Discovery. They get about 28 in a Mondeo, and we get 300 miles out of a Fiesta's tank.
As for the ice, a 4x4 makes no difference, does it? You can have 27 wheels scrabbling for grip, but if there is none you'll still slide gracefully into the hedge.
well a 1.8 will obviously do more than a 2.4!
If they go sideways more often than not its the driver. I've never had any bother in a little Fiesta, and t'missus' family live on top of a fook-off hill in the Lake District. Only problem they have is if the drifts are six foot high, but then the only thing that gets through is next door's tractor:D
Sorry, though in my hunt for the information i found this
Which I though was interesting.
Though what I think you want follows...
If you want me to specifically look up a mondeo, give me another shout.
Sorry? What was that? I'm right and you're wrong?
just loads of facts and figures.
what use are facts to anyone?
I told you what my sources were in the post mate. But yes, Kermit's right I facts can be manipulated to prove anything. I could have lopped off the rest of the table where there was very little difference between the 4x4 and saloon or even results were the saloon version was worse. I didn't, but it's possible.