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What will have happened is one of their spokespersons will; ahve made a throwaway comment, and it's been used as "policy" to attack them with.
ken Livingstone said anyone in London driving a 4x4 was a moron, and deserve to be laughed at. I don't see any criticism of him.
Because Ken is Kool :thumb:
You misspelt twat then:p
It's the ones who buy them so little Timothy will be "safe" that piss me off.
Why is it that every car coming out of a private school is a fucking 4x4?
I've thought of another reason: they are more dangerous to pedestrians in a crash.
My apologies
besides ..it's personal friggin choice.
it\s a b;eedin car and some people may well buy it as a fashion thing but so what ...twenty mondeos or twenty fucking FbF'S OUTSIDE A SCHOOL CUASE THE SAME CONGESTION ...IT'S NOT A FUCKING ARTIC!
it parks in the same size place a s a cortina.
what about all this freedom of choice?
we won't be able to shoot hunt fish drive a car of our choice.
what about the manufacturers? the jobs?
it's not an off hand comment by all accounts ...i've just sent the libs a an email saying i won't be voting for them cos of this one single issue ...our freedoms are being ever more eroded ...
fuck 'em ...i wasn't going to vote for them anyway.
a landrover or whatever causes no moere congestion than any other motor.
...getting stuck behind a caravan?
round here it's a matter of getting stuck behind a tractor and trailer or a fucking horse box trailer ...attactched to a mondeo!
a bus a truck ...all can slow our journeys down ...a fucking range rover does not cause thise probs.
will they ban green wellies next cos they look shite?
how about bringing in an energy tax for asll the people who leave all those standby little lights on asll over the house when they are asleep ...takes a couple of power stations to run all your standbys whilst your sleeping.
it's a fucking car for gods sake!
how about banning yachts. golf buggies.
it's a fucking car!
I hate seeing 4 x 4s in cities. I don't think they should be banned but those people who insist on driving vehicles that are completely unsuitable for city use should be made to pay the price.
As far as city driving is concerned 4 x 4s are gas-guzzling, impractical, bulky and considerably more dangerous vehicles than normal cars. If people insist on driving them on clogged towns and cities either to compensate for any shortcoming they might have in the genital department or because they think their kids will be 'safer' when driven to school (some mums would drive a fucking Challenger 2 tank if they knew how :mad: ) then they should indeed be made to pay for their selfishness.
I've reckon they've been nicking ideas from forums such as this one... 50% on amounts over 100K, ban 4 x 4s... It's all been said here before
Anyway, as I said I would not want them banned but in the same way as there is a congestion charge in London I'd like to see a '4x4 charge' as well.
They are too big for the roads and cause no end of accidents when they straddle 2 lanes.
I hate them with a passion.
List of things wrong with 4x4s
Here's another interesting set of statistics
How bizzare, don't you think, that more 4x4s are bought in london, than say, wales or scotland, where the road quality is less.
4x4s are lethal, and should not be allowed on motorways, should probably have speed limiters fitted, and should be discouraged from being brought into densley populated areas.
Porche have just brought out a 4x4, what are you doing with a porche 4x4! You're never going to take it anywhere near a field, and Land Rover Vogue, name says it all really.
Interesting story for you here, you're either going to laugh or cry.
Been reading up on actual libdem policy, they want to charge £10 for 4x4 in london.
yes, standard c-charge rules, just up to £10.
A democratically elected government is free to ban e-v-e-r-y-t-h-I-n-g. Because Vox Populi is the same that Vox Dei isn’t it?
PS
To Fiend_85
You say 4x4 are the most environmentally harmful on the market, emitting up to four (convieniently) times more CO2.
CO2 is a pollutant?! So you believe in this Greenies' the-most-stupid-for-thousand-years piece of shit? Mein Liber Gott…
It is a greenhouse gas. The point of the 'greenies' arguement is that we don't actually understand the planet's ecosystem yet.
Not sure what this thread has in connection with political correctness...?
I've read a few of the comments here about the danger of 4x4s and ask if those people who would ban these cars on this basis would also consider banning lorries, busses and motorbikes as well?
Another long lost user of this forum. Whatever happened to him anyway...?
It's to do with need of equipment, not an all out ban.
The evil selfish cunts.
What the hell is a right wing socialist? :eek2:
I notice that you totally ignored all the other points made about the flaws in 4x4s...
So ban cars completely for any collection of houses which has a public transport link with a mile - as most people can walk this far...
There are very few people who need a car, it's just more convenient. How many people need a sports car for example. Just because we don't like 4x4s doesn't mean that they should be banned.
I agree that the risk of injury, if you are hit by one, is higher but that isn't a reason either.
I think most people are against a ban MoK. But most people would agree that 4 x 4s are by nature much more polluting, inconvenient and dangerous vehicles than ordinary cars; that they are particularly unsuitable for towns and cities; and that anyone who insist on driving them in urban areas should be made to pay for the privilege.
Typical examples of right-wing socialists are fascists and neo-cons.