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Do you know what nukes do? It's not justified, it's, as matadore said, the lesser of two evils, always. That's as good as it's ever going to get. The truly scary thing is that if we really knew how to release the power inside a nuclear weapon it would have an affect like nothing else ever seen. If you think that the explosions caused by the current bomb are big, you havn't seen anything yet.
I have studied it, it's not something I think is relevant. Why don't you start a thread on it, and we'll see where we go.
yes, thank you, was having some serious issues finding a time line on china's military activity.
We know about the US like. Korea and China are the most secretive nations on earth everything we have on them is patchy or a decade old.
India and Pakistan, like you said, are nice peacful nations now, we'll just have to wait for the peace to collapse before we can realy discuss them.
Its because those on the left do not see the bigger strategic and tactical picture, they focus on small issues which are of no real importance. With the US, its also a case of 'damned if you do, damned if you dont'.
It isnt the Left which learns nothing from history and continues to sell arms hand over fist to any nutcase right wing insurgency or unstable government it can get to cough up the finances (which should be spent on their people and their economic development).
Such as millions of people being raped, tortured and killed by brutal subhuman fascist monsters? A small price to pay to stop the spread of communism, right?
No china is not more dangerous because it's a secretive country. Countries have secrets, it's the way it is. The USA does not tell us, being the public everything, it doesn't tell the government everything. Nearly every public statement to come out of every government can be classed as propaganda, because they are trying to make themselves look good.
Incidentally, don't bracket me, and this is directed at everyone, as left wing. I'm not.
What are you talking about now? Who brought michael moore into anything?! WTF has that got to do with anything?
yes, you often are.
No, I don't, the point about secrets is that you don't know about them.
Mature and well thought out response as always lukesh.
The Right is so long in bed with the profiteering and utterly unethical MIC that its only interest is to maintain the status quo of short term profiteering rather than acknowledge the repeatedly demonstrated failures of its militancy and use its brains to craft a constructive and humanocentric foreign policy that seeks to bring real development and opportunity to the world.
Such a policy change would, in the eyes of the Right, threaten the global hegemony of our multinational corporate giants whom they serve slavishly.
It is widely considered to be the most secretive in the world.
Read this
Incidentally, it's spelt 'Hypocrite' if you are going to try and insult somene, you can at least spell it right.
That's is the most secretive in the world? Where is the contradiction?
And saying 'yet again' is hardly accurate, only once has a conflicting opinion been brought up before, and even then it was only slight.
Overstatement. When compared with Communist dictators, facist ones seem angels by comparison.
Something to the tune of 90 million people have died directly because of Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Maoism.
It's obvious that there are going to be both left and right wing supporters and sympathisers here.
To be fair there is no way you can consider the governments in the USSR or China to be genuinly left wing. Not to say you havn't got a point. But this is going to turn into a left Vs right arguement and really deflect the debate.
Scare mongering bullshit to justify imperialistic crusades and geopolitical world dominance.
I know some folk in deepest Redneck America don't know any better but I'd had thought you Matadore, who has the benefit of living in Britain and can look at the whole issue from the outside, would not fall for such bollocks.
North Korea is a secretive nation because it is almost impossible to get information either into or out of the country. It has every right to be secretive.
The United States is not any less secretive, luke. Go and look at the reports of inquiries, with half the words blacked out by the Bush administration because of "security issues".
No administration of any nation can be trusted. This, again, all comes down to the intrinisically anarchistic nature of International Relations. The United States will do what is best for its own socio-economic interests, so will Israel, so will Iran, so will Burkino Faso. There are no considerations of moral or humanitarian concerns, morals are largely an irrelevance in International Relations- the USSR invaded Afghanistan for its own realpolitik reasons, and the US invaded Afghanistan for its own realpolitik reasons. The political colour of the occupier is an irrelevance.
Wrong, do some reading, do some research. Do not confine your views to left wing pamphlets or newspapers. I recommend 'Vietnam: The Necessary War' by Michael Lind for starters.
Nope, 50-90 million have died because of the Marxism you so cherish. Does it make you feel proud?
What bollocks? The only bollocks here is you denying the fact that Communism has caused more death than any other political phiolsophy.
Excuse me? Collectives? Kolkose? May Day parades? Class warfare?
Only 90 million? I thought it was at least 3 bn people plus the extinction of the dinosaurs.
Would you care proving your statement that I cherish Marxism?
Which has nothing to do with the fact that the US hasn't been bombing countries off right centre to protect the planet from 1,000 years of Global Communism Tyranny, as you absurdly claim.
You’re proving how scarily out of touch you are with reality by trusting the Iranians with nuclear weapons. To allow the Iranians to have nuclear weapons would be like giving a burglar a set of spare keys.
Iran is run by dangerous Islamic extremists that hate us. I certainly oppose invasion of Iran but I do think Israel would be justified in conducting bombing raids against Iranian nuclear facilities. As Luke said it would save us a job.
The argument that all those evil Arab countries want to get the bomb to nuke Israel (thus guaranteeing their own destruction and the deaths of hundreds of millions of Arabs and Muslims across the Middle East) doesn't wash I'm afraid.
Don't put words in other's mouth. That goes for you as well Disillusioned no-one has said they'd trust the iranians with nuclear weapons.
Do grow up Luke. It's clearly not true.