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It's interesting that you've brought it up. Why aren't we invading to pacify Pakistan and India, it was only two years ago that the Home Office jerked everyone out of the region because they were waving nukes at each other.
Yeah, I do trust the UK more than the US but Nukes put the fear of God in me.
It's unacceptable to protect yourself? Come on luke you said yourself that small posts don't cut it. You've got to be clear. Who's unacceptable, Iran or Israel?
Democracy doesn't equal freedom mate, the Third Reich was a democracy.
And it's clear that Israel doesn't have democracy in the way the UK does, the UK Government would never wall off Wales.
I don't waste my time hating people Luke. I'm telling you that you should look for things yourself in some cases. When you bring up an arguement about two countries you should really have looked up what they are like in advance.
I admit, today I asked Aladdin to provide more information, but his opening post was basically one line. So it's not quite the same.
Truth is you never bother to actually sit down and read any links that have more words than a comic book or a tabloid newspaper.
But, I think you should throw this into your bookmarks Luke -
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html
Yes, it's the CIA factbook but despite it's viewpoint it does provide a good overview of economy and history for every country in the world.
Many people would disagree with much of the content but it's a nice starting point to get past the whole - who are they, are they a democracy, when were they set up stuff.
It was Korea where nukes were the closest to being deployed. And with good reason. The Chinese invaded the Korean peninsula.
The UK govt doesnt have murderous Welsh fanatics strapped with explosives blowing themselves up in the middle of London demanding that all English people leave Britain forever.
Wrong, Hitler abolished elections and representative parliament in the Reichstag, he was elected cdemocratically, but the 3rd Reich itself was a police state.
Iran, Muslim theocracies are much less preferable to Western Democracies. Sad, but True.
The USA is the only country in the world to ever use a nuclear strike. The only country in the world to use a WMD against a foreign target. Yes it would use WMDs, it has used WMDs.
I should have said started as a democracy, the elections were controlled by the presence of SS and SA troops. Including the ones in which Austria voted for anschluss.
Yes, but for very good reason. Just becuase they used it 60 years ago to save millions of lives doesnt equate to them using it now on say, Iraq or Iran.
The USSR had thousands of Nukes, and it was more unstable than the US, ditto China.
:rolleyes:
The world is more dangerous that it ever could be because we have nuclear weapons. It's not too dangerous to get rid of them, it's dangerous because they exist.
Yup, it was war, and the most populous country had just invaded. Therefore, you make plans for the deployment of your main advantage : nuclear weapons.
Having studied it, I don't think it was a good reason. I don't ever think there has been a good reason. Not to say it didn't work, but it's not a good reason.
What has the USSR or China got do do with anything? It had and has got Nukes, what is your point?
But naturally you must be right and 6 billion people must be wrong.
Think about it. Japan had a population of about 100 million, all dedicated to their God-Emperor.
They would have fought to the death, it was a martial culture.
Plus, the US would have lost upward of a million men pacifying Japan.
200,000 lives, while a terrible price, was the lesser of 2 evils.
Just because a country has WMD, doesnt mean they will use them. YOu have tolook to the country in question, its stability and the sanity of its leaders as well as other things to decide if they will use them.
What is just what you thought Luke? That the USA is the most dangerous nuclear power on earth by virtue of it's record?
Rubbish. Two or three with a valid or semi-valid reason. As you know it.
At least china was killing it's own people Lukesh. It wasn't involving itself in another country's internal affairs. I don't know the exact war record for China, but as far as I know the last foreign incursion was in the Korean war.
Don't put words in my mouth.
You clearly aren't paying attention Lukesh, it's not a question of the USA never using them first, it's already happened, without any fear of being nuked back, they were the only nation on Earth to have them.
It's now a question of when they'll use them again.
'At Least' you heard it here first. In NO WAY does it excuse a country when it kills 'its own' people. Remember the Great Leap Forward? Caused a famine in which over 30 million Chinese peasents perished. Cultural Revolution? Red uards killing anyone they thought was a 'class enemy'.
Chinese troops were involved in the Vietnam war, they later fought a war with North Vietnam and invaded Tibet.
I'm not justifying china, I've studied it in detail. It's not a nice place. But the US are imposing their perspective on the entire planet. By force.
No it isnt, you have no way of knowing this, do not make assumptions. That goes for Lukesh as well.
And how on earth do you know that???
Thanks for in info.
Mate, it's a question of 'when' until every nuke has been dismantled.