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Where does education fit in in a libertarian society? It wouldn't be free so hardly anyone would get it like in Britain pre-1800. Surely in a libertarianism the country and the economy would go backwards because no one would be educated apart from a select few?
Please can one of the two of you answer this question rather than ignoring it like you have with other people?
Who does pay for education now? The same parents. If they do it through taxes, why can’t they do it without taxes? You don’t need to be a professor of economics to understand that if they paid directly to a teacher, not to educational bureaucrats, it would be much cheaper, not speaking about much better quality.
And if you realise this simple thing you should realise that real purpose of state education is not education at all.
As Hans-Hermann Hoppe explains this:
“…all states-- some more extensively than others, but every state to a considerable degree-- have felt the need to take the system of education, for one thing, into their own hands. It either directly operates the educational institutions, or indirectly controls such institutions by making their private operation dependent on the granting of a state license, thus insuring that they operate within a predefined framework of guidelines provided by the state. Together with a steadily extended period of compulsory schooling, this gives the state a tremendous head start in the competition among different ideologies for the minds of the people. Ideological competition which might pose a serious threat to state rule can thereby be eliminated or its impact considerably reduced, especially if the state as the incorporation of socialism succeeds in monopolising the job market for intellectuals by making a state license the prerequisite for any sort of systematic teaching activity.”
Why was it a silly question? It was just a question about your beliefs, like what people do when talking to someone who is of a religion they have not previously come into contact with.
Yes, but different people pay different amounts, so different people would get a different standard, so why would the quality be much better?
Then, think about this. Higher salary doesn’t mean higher quality. Those bois in Eton have good education, certainly, but the price depends more on the prestige of their school, nice uniform, brand equipment so on. My point is not that more expensive teachers offer better educational standards but rather that parents’ desire to have good teachers makes them improve their skills.
You're an idiot.
I was involved in anarchist politics when you were still sucking at your mama's teat. So don't tell me you know more than me.
You quite obviously know fuck all about anarchist politics.
Please try and educate yourself.
Yes, I know that you fool. But free market Libertarianism isn't anarchism either.
This board is full of idiots. :rolleyes:
Just look at the education system before state schooling was introduced, few people were educated, this is what would happen, simpkle history lesson really.....
I know what you was talking about and I had conversations with these commie pseudo-anarchists. They are anarchists as I am Pope. They say “yeah, we are against State, of course, but….” and then a mile-long list of things they demand from govt. This for free and that free and everything for free… f*ng traitors. They don’t believe in their own principles.
Anyway LabRat.
http://www.diy-punk.org/anarchy/secF1.html
Read some anarchist political theory and then come back.
If you don't succeed at first,.....
anarchism's a joke, ppl like being governed , they're just too lazy to participate, they step back and let others take charge (but not anarchists, that's for sure)
http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/spunk/Spunk143.txt
That would knock out the TV schedules:eek:
Keep those pesky anarchist varmints away from me
But as I've said on other threads, even though my politics could broadly be described as anarchist, I'm far too jaded these days to subsribe to any political theory.
I try and effect change on an individual level these days with the work I do.
Why do people like being governed?
The earliest societies had no government per se and were closer to the ideal that leftist anarchists would advocate.
But I think Kropotkin believed that the medieval city state was the ideal social structure.
I suggest you read Colin Ward's book "Anarchy in Action".
Centrist?
I guess. But I reckon the left-right spectrum is outdated anyhow.:cool:
They mean the MEANS OF PRODUCTION!
That relates to factories, land, etc.
I doubt any leftist anarchist (or Marxist for that matter) would state that you shouldn't own ANY property, certainly not things necessary for your existence!
Even if it is you.
i'm not inclined to, thanks
The only anarchist activity I'm aware of is on May Day when they run round like headless chickens until the Met police round them up and pen them. Not this year though
Total public indifference/antipathy/distaste towards anarchism a bit of a problem for them
It's the usual cop-out of anarchists to say read a book, such a book is a long way down my reading-list, well after Day of the Jackal
Oh, yes the much-touted anarchist FAQs
No-one's interested in the real world
Maybe if you got in the real world you might know.
Know what
Give me an example of anarchist activity
If you want to know, read that book I recommended.
But if you want some examples of anarchist politics in action, read up on the history of the Spanish Revolution.
Like Man, that's ages ago
There is, apart from a local sports club, absolutely no communal activity where I live, no one can be arsed to do a thing, certainly not vote for the Mayor of London
Ppl expect Councils, Councillors to do thins for them, ppl don't attend well-publicised Council meetings
If an Anarchist came round here, ppl would call the Police ( I hope they would come, we pay our rates...)
Round here, there's plenty of community activity. Defending social housing against being sold off by Lambeth Council, investigations into dodgy deals between local businessmen and the council, community action against racism and gun crime etc
Most people don't call themselves anarchists when they do it though, but its the basis of anarchist politics - autonomous community action.