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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: child labour
    Originally posted by the sole liber
    Why the need for child labour laws??

    If a child wants to work then why not??

    Damn right. I have a chimney which needs cleaning.

    Have you read any Dickens?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by the sole liber
    Why not? It's not my child; therefore I'm not obligated to care for it.

    You must have a very bleak lonely view of life.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    You must have a very bleak lonely view of life.

    Sorry, but I'm correct! A child is primarily the PARENT'S responsiblity! Not mine.

    Oh I forgot, we live in a society and we have to care about everyone, be they stranger, friend or foe!:lol: :rolleyes: :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We, as a society, have a duty of care to others in society.
    Unless you subsribe to Thatcher's view that "there is no such thing as society".
    Which you obviously do. Which is why I think you must have a lonely life.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by the sole liber
    Oh I forgot, we live in a society and we have to care about everyone, be they stranger, friend or foe!:lol: :rolleyes: :p

    You don't have to care about them, but you have a duty not to exploit them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wonder how many kids actually want a job at such a young age anyway? I mean there are paper rounds and the like...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    We, as a society, have a duty of care to others in society.
    Unless you subsribe to Thatcher's view that "there is no such thing as society".
    Which you obviously do. Which is why I think you must have a lonely life.

    Shit am I a Thatcherite.:cool:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent
    You don't have to care about them, but you have a duty not to exploit them.

    Duties and obligations often have a basis!

    I have no 'duty' to some slapper's little child.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by the sole liber
    I have no 'duty' to some slapper's little child.

    Aahhh, sexist as well. Not a very nice person are you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Heh, most people I know in real life say I'm nice.

    I'm friendly and an amiable person.:cool:

    If I don't come across as that online, then tough!:p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It'll be tougher for you when you get banned a second time...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by paperBprincess
    so you'd trust them to get your change right and not sit there scoffing stuff etc?

    i know i wouldnt.

    If they do that, discipline them or sack them!

    Is being reprimanded for not doing your job properly such a far out, peculiar notion?! :p :rolleyes: :yeees:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This all is just a theory.
    Did anybody work at the school age and know what these laws are in practice? I did and I know. They are not for protecting me it's as clear as God's blue sky.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: Re: child labour
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent
    Damn right. I have a chimney which needs cleaning.

    Have you read any Dickens?

    Yes, but if that child wants a job then so be it!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No, you dont get it. Child workers are nearly always exploited. There are no laws governing breaks or pay, so if what you wanted to happen came true then the economy would collapse thanks to the army of 14 year old workers working 9 hours a day at £1.50 an hour.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    No, you dont get it. Child workers are nearly always exploited.

    So?

    There are no laws governing breaks or pay, so if what you wanted to happen came true then the economy would collapse thanks to the army of 14 year old workers working 9 hours a day at £1.50 an hour.

    If some children want to stay in school, fine. Why can't others work??
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The society as a whole benefits from making kids go to school rather than work. Education makes countries rich, exploiting their children doesn't.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because we say so.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LabRat
    This all is just a theory.
    Did anybody work at the school age and know what these laws are in practice? I did and I know. They are not for protecting me it's as clear as God's blue sky.

    Few school children who work 'get exploited'. Safety regulations at workplaces apply to them too, you know!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by the sole liber
    Few school children who work 'get exploited'. Safety regulations at workplaces apply to them too, you know!

    Plainly bollocks. Minimum wage doesn't apply to under 16s
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What the heck does a minimum wage have to do with safety??
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by the sole liber
    What the heck does a minimum wage have to do with safety??

    It doesn't, but it does have to do with exploitation.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teens DON'T DESERVE equal minimum wages!!

    They have fewer respsonsibilties than adults. They often have no family to look after, mortgage/rent to pay, car to maintain, etc.

    There SHOULD be no minimum wage anyhow!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There should be no wage higher than other, regardless of the position held in the company anyhow.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There are no laws governing breaks or pay, so if what you wanted to happen came true then the economy would collapse thanks to the army of 14 year old workers working 9 hours a day at £1.50 an hour.

    How can extra workers make an economy collapse??!

    If anything MORE people pay tax (notwithstanding the immorality of taxation) and would spend things.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because, you idiot, if an employer had a choice between employing an adult he had to pay £4.50 an hour for, and a child who he could employ for £1.50, who do you think he would employ?

    No minimum wage eh? Do you work? From the sounds of it I don't believe you do. Tell you what, I'll set up a new buisness gassing sheep. You can be my lackey clearing up all the faeces and I'll pay you £0.50 an hour for your trouble.
    Whats that, you want breaks? Well fuck you, you can work all day without so much as a toilet break. If you need to go then piss yourself.

    Aladdin, a system whereby everyone got paid the same would collapse and you know it. Where would the incentive be to become management, or join the police, or become a doctor if you know the sod who mops the floors gets paid the same?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    Aladdin, a system whereby everyone got paid the same would collapse and you know it. Where would the incentive be to become management, or join the police, or become a doctor if you know the sod who mops the floors gets paid the same?
    I know that (though resent it). But my statement was a direct reply to monocrat's "there should be no minimum wage".
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    Aladdin, a system whereby everyone got paid the same would collapse and you know it. Where would the incentive be to become management, or join the police, or become a doctor if you know the sod who mops the floors gets paid the same?


    he said ud get paid according to level of responsibility but the same level in different profession wuld pay the same if i got what he said
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    Because, you idiot, if an employer had a choice between employing an adult he had to pay £4.50 an hour for, and a child who he could employ for £1.50, who do you think he would employ?



    Children may not make up the majority of people in a workforce! Some jobs are based on one's skill level, so a child might not qualify.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You really are barking mad aren't you?
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