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I stated my reasons why i hope it is Al-Qaeda instead of ETA, would you like me to spell them out again, or would you prefer actually reading my whole post and not just 1 line.
I know I shouldn't, but I find this funny.
The point still stands that 11 September does not translate to 9/11, it translates to 11/9. Unless you're all Yanks now.
Surely if it was Al Queda and they wanted to do something on the aniversary wouldnt they just wait till 11th September itself? That would make much more sense.
They might want to attack Spain because of their stance on the war in Iraq. And given that they are slightly lower down the list of targeted countries they may have been a softer target, Al Queda has been going for softer targets of late.
I just don't know what to think any more. As far as I'm concerned it could be anything . Perhaps ETA did it but deny responsability to avoid losing support (while at the same time sending a message to the government, which presumably knows or will know who did it). Or perhaps they're telling the truth and they didn't do it at all, in which case it must have been Al Qaida or cells sympathetic to them.
In a bizarre way I almost wish it weren't ETA. We all know they're murdering scumbags, but an atrocity of this magnitude is on a different level and could signal the start of a truly atrocious campaign.
On the other hand if it were Al Qaida that did it we could all, anywhere in Europe be looking at very difficult times indeed.
I just hope those who did it are caught asap.
Also heard that in a London based Arabic newspaper, there were comments about getting revenge on the crusaders who forced the Arabs back to the East after the conquered Spain, which would certainly explain the whole Al Qaida thing.
It's scary stuff. Whoever carried out the attacks, it's disgusting. Poor families. But it's really good to see how united the people of Spain are.
Edited to add:
Found it on BBC News here
(Sorry if it's already been posted up, haven't had time to read the whole thread).
Make it look like they are under attack regardless and it's the simplest means of diverting sentiment right into line with the prevailing agenda. Makes one wonder about the bombings in Turkey too, where the public was dead set against aiding the US fight.
Anyone could park a van with some arabic recordings and plausibly incriminating paraphenalia.
Not taking a dig. Just found it comical with all the relations to the number 9-11 people are making.
:rolleyes:
if it's eta they'll deal with it internaly ...the security forces do actualy know who these people are but ...good politics at the moment for islamic evidence to be found nearby ...look at 9/11 ...and yes it has become 9/11 because it was american ...what did they find imediately? cars in the carparks of airports with korans ...with islamic tapes ...with islamic id's ...i've never been happy about this.
ALADIN ...glad to hear your family and freinds are ok. when the IRA hit the very heart of manchester ...causing the biggest explosion on british soil since the second world war ...i was out of the country and very relieved to find i knew not a soul who had been killed burned or maimed. my sympathies are with your countrymen.
there is no way alquida would dream of working with a western terrorist group ...come on ...lets get real.
The whole thing is turning political now. My sister phoned this morning to get a different perspective on the atrocity because most of the Spanish media is pointing the finger at ETA and leaving little room for other possibilities. Naturally it is in the interest of the Spanish PM to blame ETA and not Al Qaida as the latter would be seen as a revenge for Spain's involvement in a war 91% of the population disagreed with. There is also widespread suspicion that the government is withholding information and that a lot more will be revealed a few days after the election.
Spanish government 'orders embassies to say ETA did it'
Lest the Spanish dare to think there might be a chance they were targeted for Aznar's love-in with Dubya and his Iraqi adventures... The PP Party mustn't damage the chance of winning the election at any cost obviously.
:rolleyes:
Also, five suspects have been arrested. The story's here
If city police squads had such snap bang wrapups of cases the guinness book of world records would undoubtedly be printing up a new supplement.
But its obviously less hassle to believe such suspects are even plausible than to dig beyond the cover stories.
And the War on Truth continues undeterred.
FAO Aladdin and Clandestine, the source might be Israeli. But it's a leftist one with no immedeate interest in blaiming arabs and muslims.
2) it was exactly 6 months away from 9/11 .
3) it was exactly 911 day since 9/11
4) people are now being so causous here. gripping on to bags on the train, not taking the train, to going to the shops, all sorts. it's very sureal and unfortunatly on our door step again
5) damn them for going against the majority of the country and going to war: 4 million or somethingon a peace march in malaga, i don't have 1 friend who wasn't there.
totally agree
We didn't develop sophisticated and planet-wide aparati of state to have it all sit idly by merely collecting data. No, it's far more productive and profitable to help the cause along in a variety of direct and indirect ways.
Of course who is really watching the watchers?
Ah the joys of covert operations and plausible deniability (or plausible diversion as the case may be).
I assumed people this primitive died out sometime after the stone age.
Some people really don't deserve to be called homo sapiens.