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Up to 140 murdered in Madrid by c*nts
BillieTheBot
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3500452.stm
Luckily my family is all accounted for.
What a bunch of cunts! :mad:
Luckily my family is all accounted for.
What a bunch of cunts! :mad:
Beep boop. I'm a bot.
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If it is ETA, as suspected, then there is proof positive that some group just aren't interested in negotiations. I understand that the Spanish Govt has tried in the past, but failed miserably.
So, what can they do about this group?
As for what to do about them, it seems pretty hopeless. The only option is to keep on trying to infiltrate and indentify them. This is the downside of living in a free country.
This is quite a step above for ETA (if it is them) isnt it? I mean is this a far larger number of deaths than they have done before?
I thought they mainly tried to attack financial or property targets, maybe I was wrong.
These fucking cunts only represent about 8% of the Basques anyway. Although about half of them would like to see an independent Basque nation very few support violence for achieving this.
But then as you said ETA cannot be reasoned with. They run drugs and extortion cartels and they're not interested in democracy.
The answer lies in education. Most of ETA's members are early-twenties kids who have been brainwashed since birth about the Spanish being evil and all of that. And although this only happens in a few remote areas all you need is about 100 people with such mentality- out of a population of 2 million- to keep it going.
The only positive outcome out of this would be if even hardened pro-independence politicians and public turn their backs on the group in disgust for good.
TheImageWorks http://www.theimageworks.com/eta/default.htm
BBC's 'Who are ETA?'
Just reading that and I read: "The following year, Eta decided to call an indefinite ceasefire.
But that was officially ended in December 1999 after the government refused to discuss Eta's demands for Basque independence."
it sounds like Spain missed their oppurtunity... But there's no possible way the situation can be resolved through security forces alone; it already seems like there is little public support for the ETA but I still beleive if Spain enter talks with them to try to come to a compromise then the process that will end the current situation can begin.
It's horrible that innocent people have to die just for some people to get their message across
I just heard on Radio 4 that this could well be (if not already certain) ETA's most deadly attack yet.
Spanish Interior Ministry has said at least 173 dead, hundreds more injured.
Radio is saying its possibly something to do with Al Qeada, can't see it myself but its always possible with the Spanish government being supportive of US.
But as you say the leaders of the political wing of ETA have denied having anything to do with it.
The truth lies probably somewhere in between.
As for mistreatment, there probably has been and still is bullying or even beatings by some prison guards. As it is the case with 'ordinary' prisoners. However there is no co-ordinated effort of mistreatment and it is not widespread as ETA would have us believe.
I was just pointing out that Radio 4 have been commenting, that the head of ETA, or the political wing at least was talking about Arab groups rather than Al Qaeda.
It could be Al Qaida... but it has all the hallmarks of ETA even though this is a departure from 'traditional' attacks. The Spanish government has said the explosive used matches that of an unexploded bomb ETA members were carrying recently.
The reason for the denial could be just tactical. Officially they say they didn't do it, as some people who are sympathetic to ETA could draw a line and withdraw their support. But then they know that the government knows it was them so the blackmailing effect remains.
I don't quite see how terrorist problems are related to the freedoms enjoyed by that country........
I beleive ETA first started operating during the years of Francos rule? I may be wrong..........
Clandestine posting on other forums then?
Oh, hang on though, he'd be blaming Bush...
Just remember, MoK said that - not me!
Either way, how possible is it for the Basques to seperate themselves from Spain, speaking logically?
As far as I understood they're pretty dependant on Spain.
The answer lies in killing all the fucking terrorist scum we find.
Opened your eyes a bit eh Aladdin? Slightly less naive now?
Stop it. Please, stop.
Asshole.
1. yes i post elsewhere as well.
2. No, and most matters that you would dismiss as "conspiracy theory" (though nonetheless true and conspiratorial in accordance with how the larger political arena operates) do not involve Bush, even though in some instances he might happen to be the beneficiary of such backroom plans and operations.
In the case of ETA, this is a Spanish/Basque national issue pure and simple.
Oh and don't fret Jacq, i don't think i have any trouble telling you and MoK apart, you've got a better figure by far! lol.
I wasn't being serious!
Ah, but then you haven't seen me at the weekend....
Did I say that out loud?
whats the odds that matadore is in reality an inbred neo-con hick from texas that hasn't got a clue about anything.
Typical fucking Bushite, making fucking political capital out of a fucking tragedy.
Besides which, ETA have been around for pushing 40 years- almost as long as the darlings of America, the IRA.
From the information, it looks like all the trains were supposed to pull into Atocha station at the same time- thank fuck that didn't happen.
Vermin, vermin, vermin. They should be punished in the most unspeakable ways possible- and the victims' families should be able to do the torturing if they want.