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You can't take away a consumers right to choice and by taking away the larger sizes you are obviously saying 'we can't trust you enough'
It's food pure and simple - you can't just force Fast food joints to advertise less or so on; it is the consumers decision what they eat and the reliability should not and can not lie in the coperations hands. Soon we'll be having people suing Thortons cause they don't have health lables on chocolate.....
The obsession with food (either lack of or excess) is causing our world come to a halt. With all the press focused on people being FAT OVERWEIGHT ETC
do u know what this has done to my brother??????????
He's in a bloody place for his aneroxia and compulsive disorder which has come about due to our own obsession with food.
We shouldn't see food as something which can make us feel better, nor something which we should limit and count calories. We should enjoy it but that is that.
It si not our best friend nor is it our worst enemy
It is people's responsibility to come to terms with tehir relationship with food - yes i do believe we need to do something about this problem but firmly belive that more healthier options in other shops and so on is a better option then suing, putting health warnings on food or taking away a consumers right to choice.
And damn right if I want a big meal I WILL GET A BIG MEAL.
culture is to blame, yes I agree that many parents in our earlier ages want us to scrap every last mossel of our plates......but is it not better to try and siolve this problem through changing our attitudes rather than scrapping options of a meal board?
McDonald's are a corporate enterprise- they exist to make money. If it was not in their financial and market interests to be seen to be doing something, then they would not do it. Basically, those saying that it is a restriction on consumer choice are missing the crucial point: if the consumers were demanding it, then the choice would be there.
McDonald's haven't come over all caring, they're doing it in a desperate bid to prop up their crumbling market position.
Yeah major fast food companies, tobacco and probably alcohol companies as well dont care about the well being of their customers, all they care about is making a profit so that the fat cats can get another pile of money to roll around in. Bastards.
Possibly not at home, possibly not with you but experience tells me that Kermit’s comment is true. I would be surprised if anyone in the NHS would disagree with it.
Sorry.
Not “just”, but I don’t think that was the suggestion.
What you can force them to do it advertise truthfully and not just the points they want to get across. Like it or not, fast food and unheatly eating has a massive effect on this country and – ensuring that the correct message is publicised is imperative.
Adverts which say “95% fat free” sound good, but what that actually means is that the product is 5% fat, and that is not good.
As for your brother, he has my sympathy, but I would question whether his anorexia/compulsions are a direct result of food, and our obsession with it, or a symptom of something else – which is what we tend to find… Either way I hope that he recovers soon.
At the end of the day, my mum was like BeckyBoo you had these things as treats and she dictated everything what was served at home, hence she didnt like it, we didnt eat it. There was no argument as it was futile. Thank God for sensible parents.
People are just too weak or lazy these days, when I'm walking to college, it amazes me how few people I see walking. People are shocked and amazed that I do it. Its half an hour each way, school was 3/4 hour each way, I have little problem with weight, if I'm putting it on I lay off the beer for a month and walk more its gone. The trouble is we all want perfect lives and solution but we don't want to make an effort.
Why do I know more people on the Atkins Diet than people who are prepared to walk at least 30 minutes a day?
The thing is we go to BK maybe once every couple of months and she enjoys it, I take her shopping and we end up there for our dinners. Its nice just to have this treat every now and again.
I tend to give our Becks a mixture of stuff even if I dont like it, Ive always been a fussy eater and didnt want her ending up like me.
people are lazy these days, they take the car round the block to take the kids to school. By the time they actually get parked at school they could have walked it, but they are so lazy. I dont drive so when hubby aint around I walk for miles or Becks takes her bike to school, in summer we will probs bike it every day (thats when I get a bike).
Schools dont do as much PE, they need to do more physical education to get kids into sport and doing excersise.
They probably won't though. People will only ever eat what is put in front of them. It's still seen as rude to ask for seconds, would you go upto the counter in McD's and ask for another big mac?
If you give someone a supersize portion they will eat it. If you give someone a regular portion they will eat it, but because they won't have known about the bigger size they won't care and they'll be happy.
Nah so many people I know add a burger, some selects or some nuggets onto their order. Yes they may only eat whats put in front of them but they are the ones ordering it. If your still hungry your not gona be happy and seeing as the food isnt realy filling, then you get more. If im not full on the way out i'll get another cheeseburger, though I dont go regularly.
It's not seen as rude asking for seconds, espeicially when its you or your parents paying for it. I can only see it being rude, when other peopl (apart frm parents) people buy you food out of generosity, When have you have gone up to a burger counter, asked to purchase more and felt like you were being rude? That's ridiculous!
I don't want to turn this into a debate about doctor/patient relations but if someone comes in saying " My son has been coughing for a few days now shall I take him to A+E?" then surely you are going to think that person is a retard. I would.
That isn't really what MoK or I meant:)
Now I could draw a connection here to the decision by MSN to get rid of chat rooms to protect children when there was clear evidence that it was just losing money anyway. After all it could be suggested (though not by me) that McDonalds is just getting to charge more money for a large portion and yet gets to claim it's helping with the obeseity problem.
less money buying salt!!!
i only ever used to get McDs as a treat when i was younger and i rarely eat it now. i know the food they serve is unhealthy but i was so shocked when i read just how much fat and calories there is in a meal! i doubt that children even care anyway, i know i didn't think about it until i was a teenager.
in an article i read it said how much exercise it would take to burn off a McDs meal and that is a very useful way of getting across to people what these food do to you.
I mean there's also the animal rights issue to consider. I don't mean the idea that we should all turn veggie, but if you've looked behind the scenes of these big corporations the treatment of the poor creatures before slaughter is horrific.
Then we have the environmental reasons not to eat in those 'resteraunts' or whatever they call themselves and issues concerning employment and how they treat their staff.
For those reasons alone I wouldn't eat that crap. :yuck:
It doesn't take a genius to tell that McDonalds food is full of crap and if they're aiming unhealthy food at children via television and offering toys with meals, then it shows that they don't give a damn about customers, their welfare. And because of reasons like this we're becoming fatter as a society, we aren't aware enough about what we eat or about where the food comes from.
It's like when Cadburys were sponsoring sports equipment for schools (or was that Walkers?) by encouraging kids to collect wrappers from their products. Or how Gary Lineker is the Walkers mascot. Brainwashing maybe?
Super-sizing... the meals are too shite to fill anyone up anyway, why not supersize them? If people get fat it's their own fault.
so lets assume you have a 7/8 yr old. Its their birthday and they say "please can we go to McDonalds for my birthday" you would refuse ?
There is nothing wrong with any fast food as long as its in moderation, just because you dont like McDonalds dont mean a child o yours wont.
They should stop aiming it towards kids, instead of stopping aiming towards people with a bigger appetite.
Maccy's is so cheap anyway that instead of buying supersize, you may as well buy another fries or another burger...
They are responsible for the demolition of a large part of the Brazillian rainforest.
Grazing land for cattle.
They can have a yummy plate of pulses! Good and goooood for you!
I don't understand what is wrong with this. They are going to be slaughtered anyway. Should they be treated with care and dignity right up to the point where their heads are taken off?
The rest of the quote disgusted me...well to an extent, I'm not one for animal rights when it comes to them being food at the end.....but so what if they dislocate a wing 30 seconds before they die?
So you want them to say 'our (product) contains 5% fat'?
That just wouldn't work would it? And I wouldnt say that's being untruthful....the fact's being stated perfectly well; just ina more positive, marketable way. Its the consumers own fault if they dont know that a 100% - 95% = 5% - which isn't that bad considering :P
No. It's not JUST that. But its a factor which played a significant part. Culture influences everything we do - as does the media...Damn things *kick*
I eat meat, but I ain't condoning animal cruelty. It seems Ok in this society to chase a fox down, exhaust it and watch it ripped apart for 'sport' or to mutilate a chicken's beak, keep it in a tiny pen and feed it until its legs give way from weight... yet if we did that to a cat or dog then it's disgusting.
Yea we're not eating our pets, but say you had a dog and were going to put it to sleep because it was ill. It wouldn't matter then if you broke its legs, then electrocuted it and boiled it alive because the stunning didn't help?
And yes, Pepsi, food manufactrurers should be honest about what they are selling. You will find that many 'diet' options of products are only x amount of calories per serving because the suggested serving is miniscule, and you will find that nearly all 'diet' products misguide fat content.
You will also find that words such as 'light' are meaningless in a legal context- I could sell a product and call it 'light' even if it is IDENTICAL to the 'full' product, for 'light' can be used to describe anything, including the colour of the product.
I am perfectly within my rights to take full-fat butter, add white food colouring to call it 'light', and then say it is low-calorie by saying a suggested serving is 1g; I can then charge double for this product, and people will see the advertising and think it is healthy. Do you not think that this is disgusting?
The reason they use the 95% fat free is so that people will buy it thinking that this is a good thing.
And believe me 5% saturated fat is piss poor.
If the companies were prevented from doing this then better informed purchases could be made, instead of having huge numbers of people fooled into buying something which they think is good for them....
I think that's a much better example on how manufatcures can be more truthful than the 95% fat free thing (whihc I think is perfectly acceptable).
I think new legistration should be brought in perhaps from the EU to make sure changes occur with this obvious flaw in marketing.
But........did you relaise (im not sure if this is true of now but it was a few years ago) that it's not even a legal requirement for the nutrutional values to be on the back of produce? so in a way companies are being ethical - at least you can't argue with measurements!
And i think most people (at least that i know of) may be attracted to items that boast 'lightness' but more than ever people check the back and see if the lack of fat is accounted for by an increase in sugar or so forth - if there was a higher consumer awareness of the ploys made by manufacturers then perhaps consumers wouldn't be led blind down an alley.
Yup, Sainsbury's low fat crisps are simply thinner. Remember Walker's Lights? They were basically wafer thin regular Walkers crisps.... not much difference really except they left you emptier.
'healthy' food does tend to be more expensive. I read somewhere (though I can't remember the source right now) that organic food can be up to 30% more expensive (despite supporting the idea of organic farming, the price difference with 'health foods' is disgusting in my opinion), low fat food is usually bland and tasteless and most of the products you get in the supermarket are packed full of chemicals, additives and the likes. You just can't win unless you buy fresh meat from the butchers and fresh vegatables.
McDonalds salads "fattier than burgers"
Yeah i read about this today, its quite worrying really. Surely all the fatty cheese and whatnot can be left off it.