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temporary, super unofficial, community support thread (for those looking for support after GC's)

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  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    Yeah I can breathe properly it's just anxiety happens all the time but yeah im fine. Thank you for caring. Sorry you had to deal with well whatever it was :/ as for the sixth form support I know the safegaurding and mental health team bc im staying at my secondary for sixth form and they aren't the nicest people. And it feels like they just say we care and all that bullshit bc its a legal requirement. I had meltdowns in school what happened depended on the teachers mood if they were in a good mood I got support if not I got spoken to told to "just breathe" and shoved back into class worst case scenario they'd yell at me only happend a few times tho. They'd also call home which lead to a lot of arguments with my parents and many many lectures and now I don't really talk to them about stuff I try to find other outlets some of which haven't been the safest. I still vividly remember a teacher (my maths teacher) seeing a cut on my arm and me being absolutely terrified to go home and I was in my maths teachers classroom before we all found out he was basically a fucking pedo (still not over that but im getting thru) and I was basically in his classroom sobbing and he was trying to comfort me and when I eventually got home I got yelled at and my mom grabbed my arm pulling my sleeve up and they were both yelling at me and for months after making snarky comments and I still get urges but I usally just try to distract myself knowing if I do act on it I'll be dragged to my GP again which im not doing bc I hate the stupid doctor and now I have suicidal thoughts on my fucking medical record what if someone sees that. It's always oh your a kid kids can't have suicidal thoughts well I fucking do. And maybe the world might be better without me in it. Bc ik you'll ask im safe im not gonna do anything stupid.

    @Cutelivejazz okay. wow, that is a lot of hardship. First things first, that is unimaginably cruel of the supposed "support network" around you. Your parents shouldn't be dismissing any of it, let alone yelling at you for struggling for months over it. You deserve support, kindness, and understanding. To be screamed at, put on the spot and shamed by your mom like that, and to have your schools safeguarding and wellbeing people, and your GP be that useless is just horrific to endure. I need to say this next part and it's vital you understand this - That's a failure of them and the system, not of you.

    And having anxiety meltdowns isn't something that you should be punished for depending on someone else's reaction to it. You should be getting extra support, perhaps a counsellor and whatever support measures put in place that you need. Things like being allowed to take a break from class if it ever got too anxiety triggering and things like that should be offered to you. That there has been punishment for mental health struggles is just straight up evil. I can't think of any other word for it. Just breathe is useless advice and a clear dereliction of duty when you clearly need more support. No wonder you've been left feeling drained and exhausted worried for the next challenge. You've had every single thing stacked against you with this last challenge (your GCSE's).

    And it must be such a horrific blow, to have had what you thought was a safe environment, turn out to have a real monster in it. Was there ever any offer of counselling or support for that, because the impact it must have had is just unimaginable.

    Now about the thoughts and urges. I really do understand that. Truly. I have a documented case on my medical record of SH myself. It's a long story, but it was in a severe episode of depression and emotional numbness. It's really scary the thought of it on your medical record, but the thing is, once you've gone for a while without any mental health issues, that is always taken into consideration. When i apply for my Australian or US visa, it's probably gonna come up. But so long as you can get a note from a therapist or doctor, show you've gone a period of time without mental health issues, it's not always a barrier. Even the Army tried to get me to enlist for the UOTC and when i told them of my mental health history, they told me if i've gone a few years without anything, i'll be fine (i didn't apply sadly). Mental health issues aren't the barrier that they used to be. But it's important that if you need support, you get it.

    And whatever doctor said your a kid and kids can't have those thoughts, there is a very very long list showing that they can.

    And finally, and most importantly, the world would be a much darker place without you in it. The system has been cruel, the organisations and people who are supposed to support you have been cruel, and you have not been given the support you deserve, but their failures does not mean the world would be better without you. It just means that they are a bunch of utter twats.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    @DonnerKebab. Im really sorry to be that person i don't mean to be annoying but I just wanted to ask if everything was okay or if you were annoyed or smth I can't really tell just bc you haven't responded. Obviously you have no obligation to respond you really don't need to but I was just wondering if I did or said something?

    @Cutelivejazz no don't worry, you haven't said anything. I type pretty slowly, and was writing a pretty long response as thoughtfully as i could which was why it was taking a while. Please don't ever feel like you've said something wrong, or that you've done anything wrong. I'm just slow at typing out responses. If i ever had an issue, i would say it, I wouldn't ghost or stop responding. And never say sorry for asking. it's all okay friend.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    Sorry for the huge rant just needed someone to listen sorry if its tmi or if its like too much or annoying

    @Cutelivejazz btw, never say sorry for talking to much. There's no such thing as talking too much on here. I've said this to countless people, but i don't care if what people are struggling with is 1 word or 10,000 words. You're entitled to vent about everything, it's never annoying and it's never too much. You're always going to be listened to here always. The rest of the world might ignore your struggles, but nobody in this community will.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    @DonnerKebab Thank you for taking the time to reply. Sorry I assumed it's just I wanted to be sure but I also didn't want to be pushy and like rush you but yeah thank you I guess having someone care is nice and not be guilt tripped every 5 seconds for not being perfect or needing help so genuinely thank you. I've had counselling twice and spoken with a physiologist (sikologist) I can't spell and autocorrect isn't helping english is weird and annoying to spell anyway im going off on a tangent (i laugh every time bc i think of tangents in maths so I always imagine that in my head bc idk I just really really like tangents ANYWAYS!) The sikologist was shit he was horrible and made me cry several times i had online sessions once a week and then they were brought upto two then I convinced my mom to stop the sessions and ahe apologised for forcing me I mean it's tough bc I never know how she's gonna react so I try not to tell her anything she always says oh your like a locked box. HMM I FUCKING WONDER WHY. This is hard for me to admit but I lie a lot to my parents bc ive always been scared of them i have a vivid memory of when i was younger (i think i was like 5 or 6) and my mom was on the phone and I had a pillow filled with like those styrofoam bead things and was curoius what was in the pillow so cut it open and obv the beads went everywhere and my mom yelled at me sometimes when I bring it up she always says how sorry she is for yelling and stuff (random side note I actually still have the pillow and it is in great condition exept for the place my mom stiched it) I hate myself for lying but it feels like I cant stop like I have to lie to feel safe and protect myself bc if I dont I might get yelled at which has lead me into many situations and many lectures and many arguments. as for the counselling the first time was awful I hated the lady that did it she came into school every Thursday but she just wasn't good at her job like her fake care and sympathy. I lean on my maths teacher a lot and I mean a lot he was my safe person anything happened id go to him and it sounds stupid but I was super attached to him (not in a weird way like in a safe person way if that makes any sense) and I would get stressed out when he wasn't in id spend breaks and lunches on his classroom with my friends and this group of girls that were a year above us. So when I did get the news it was hard for me. I hate it bc if it was all bad then yeah he was a bad person but he helped me with so much and for someone who I basically depended on it hurt that they were ripped away from me. As for the second time I got counselling she was lovely she was so sweet and she genuinely cared like we would always have these random chats bc we were doing this work book and there were these characters and we would go off on random rants abt their clothes and stuff she was so nice I think she was like the only mental health professional I actually liked the only thing was I only had 6 sessions with her which I feel like wasn't enough and sometimes I miss her she was super nice. I just also want to say thank you for being so nice abt it and all and taking time to help it means a lot to have someone to talk to its been pretty lonely lately
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    Also if you're still awake sorry I know it's pretty late so I hope im not disturbing you or anything
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    Also to clarify the kids can't have those thoughts it was my parents who said it to me and they actually like joked about it but its not their fault their from a generation and culture that didn't believe in mental health
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    Also if you're still awake sorry I know it's pretty late so I hope im not disturbing you or anything

    @Cutelivejazz i'm a bit of a night owl, so you aren't disturbing me at all. As i said, this is a place where you don't have to be alone. We even had a running laugh on here that me and another user used to be the midnight gang, so don't ever worry about that.

    I'm just gonna write up a reply now.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    @DonnerKebab thank you for letting me know your writing a reply that actually helps a lot bc well I catastrophise sometimes so saying that helps. Im glad im not disturbing you I'm always worried about pushing people past their boundaries or bothering them but im glad im not being annoying.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    @DonnerKebab ik my message is very disorganised so sorry abt that or if its hard to read its just my brain is constantly like that it can get exhausting
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    @DonnerKebab Thank you for taking the time to reply. Sorry I assumed it's just I wanted to be sure but I also didn't want to be pushy and like rush you but yeah thank you I guess having someone care is nice and not be guilt tripped every 5 seconds for not being perfect or needing help so genuinely thank you. I've had counselling twice and spoken with a physiologist (sikologist) I can't spell and autocorrect isn't helping english is weird and annoying to spell anyway im going off on a tangent (i laugh every time bc i think of tangents in maths so I always imagine that in my head bc idk I just really really like tangents ANYWAYS!) The sikologist was shit he was horrible and made me cry several times i had online sessions once a week and then they were brought upto two then I convinced my mom to stop the sessions and ahe apologised for forcing me I mean it's tough bc I never know how she's gonna react so I try not to tell her anything she always says oh your like a locked box. HMM I FUCKING WONDER WHY. This is hard for me to admit but I lie a lot to my parents bc ive always been scared of them i have a vivid memory of when i was younger (i think i was like 5 or 6) and my mom was on the phone and I had a pillow filled with like those styrofoam bead things and was curoius what was in the pillow so cut it open and obv the beads went everywhere and my mom yelled at me sometimes when I bring it up she always says how sorry she is for yelling and stuff (random side note I actually still have the pillow and it is in great condition exept for the place my mom stiched it) I hate myself for lying but it feels like I cant stop like I have to lie to feel safe and protect myself bc if I dont I might get yelled at which has lead me into many situations and many lectures and many arguments. as for the counselling the first time was awful I hated the lady that did it she came into school every Thursday but she just wasn't good at her job like her fake care and sympathy. I lean on my maths teacher a lot and I mean a lot he was my safe person anything happened id go to him and it sounds stupid but I was super attached to him (not in a weird way like in a safe person way if that makes any sense) and I would get stressed out when he wasn't in id spend breaks and lunches on his classroom with my friends and this group of girls that were a year above us. So when I did get the news it was hard for me. I hate it bc if it was all bad then yeah he was a bad person but he helped me with so much and for someone who I basically depended on it hurt that they were ripped away from me. As for the second time I got counselling she was lovely she was so sweet and she genuinely cared like we would always have these random chats bc we were doing this work book and there were these characters and we would go off on random rants abt their clothes and stuff she was so nice I think she was like the only mental health professional I actually liked the only thing was I only had 6 sessions with her which I feel like wasn't enough and sometimes I miss her she was super nice. I just also want to say thank you for being so nice abt it and all and taking time to help it means a lot to have someone to talk to its been pretty lonely lately

    @Cutelivejazz don't worry. it's okay to assume things like that. Especially with anxiety, it's normal to be worried and have those concerns. You aren't being pushy at all. I promise. I should have said i was writing a response to begin with, so my bad.

    The thing is, not a single person is perfect in this world. Everybody is human, everybody has struggles and everybody needs support from time to time, and anyone who expects perfection is going to be waiting a very long time. It's just wrong that you've been made to feel bad and guilty for needing a little support. Everybody stumbles a little in life, that doesn't make that person any lesser at all. I can promise, you'll never be made to feel guilty for being human on here.

    Now, with psychologists, counsellors, and therapists, they are like any other profession. There are good ones, bad ones, and legendary ones. I got bad luck in college and got a bad therapist, which i cancelled after 1 session, and then I later had a really good one, who really helped me, like your most recent one did. For me it was only 4 sessions, but it really made an impact. About the first one making you cry, that is just wrong of them. Nobody should ever be forced into therapy, and no therapy session should ever make a person feel bad, or worse. But i'm glad you got a decent one eventually. Are you able to put in for further sessions with that counsellor you like, because she sounds like she really did understand you, and it sounds like it could really be beneficial. Especially as you navigate sixth form. As i said at the start, it's very important that you have that kind of support through that new challenge.

    And on the topic of parents, I can understand being scared of parents. My dad was not a good man, and did some rather bad things to me. I won't go into detail, but he was a bad person. Arrested, went no contact, and he passed away now. Shouting, beatings, and a few other things, it did have an impact and it did scare me, at least emotionally. Closing yourself off after bad experiences with parents, such as being screamed at, which has a huge emotional impact, is totally understandable, especially if the things you have gone to them about was shut down with the whole comments they made about kids not having mental health issues. When i was suffering the worst of my health anxiety for example, it got really bad. Like washing my hands till they bled bad. And i went to my mum, opened up, and she told me not to talk about it, as it would impact my record if i sought help for it. So i didn't, and had a breakdown soon after. I rarely open up to her since. She also had a very short temper and would yell a huge amount, and changes mood every few days. One minute supportive, one minute not. So as i say, i fully understand what it's like to avoid telling parents about things, but it's important that you do have somebody to confide in, as leaving everything all bottled up and dealing with it by yourself is not good for the long run. As i mentioned, trying to go in for more counselling sessions (btw, you have a right i believe to request a change in counsellor if whoever you get next isn't good), will give you someone you can confide in about things.

    And about your maths teacher, that just makes the whole situation even more heart breaking. I do know what you mean about him being a safe person for you, and being attached as like a favourite teacher and sort of support figure. It really does have a lot of impact having the rug pulled out from under you regarding that. It must have been really confusing the whole thing, seeing a completely different side to him, and to not only lose that support and safe space, but also to such evil circumstances, it's hard to comprehend. The most important thing right now i think, if you don't mind me suggesting, is getting some sort of support put in place. Such as trying to request more counselling session with that counsellor. Also, it may be a bit of a stretch, but, with certain past memories that may be difficult, a therapist might be able to help to unpack that. Do you know the difference between a counsellor and a therapist at all?

    And your absolutely welcome. I'm just sorry that you've not had somebody to talk to about this all.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    @DonnerKebab ik my message is very disorganised so sorry abt that or if its hard to read its just my brain is constantly like that it can get exhausting

    @Cutelivejazz not at all jazz, it's all good. I'm just really slow at responding. When i write a reply, i end up rewriting entire chunks of it, try to word things a different way, and just try and write as thoughtfully as i can which is why i'm pretty slow with replies. Sorry about that.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    edited August 29
    @DonnerKebab just kinda gonna rant i need tkget out of my head I've literally been tossing an turning in bed can't sleep :/ it isnt like me tbh im normally knocked out by 11pm but ofc my brain hates me so it's replaying every possible embarrassing memory while also spiralling that everyone hates me and im annoying you and your really pissed and you hate me which logically I know isn't true but yk catastrophising ans anxiety
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    I can't do this anymore
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    Im too scared to ask for help my parents will ask a bunch of questions and honestly I cba to deal with that I just feel a little dead on the inside and idk. As far as I know the company only offered like one set or smth idek I did it thru school
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    @DonnerKebab just kinda gonna rant i need tkget out of my head I've literally been tossing an turning in bed can't sleep :/ it isnt like me tbh im normally knocked out by 11pm but ofc my brain hates me so it's replaying every possible embarrassing memory while also spiralling that everyone hates me and im annoying you and your really pissed and you hate me which logically I know isn't true but yk catastrophising ans anxiety

    @Cutelivejazz Anxiety can be extremely difficult to overcome, and the catastrophising is completely worrying you about things, which is understandable. I know this won't make much difference, but i promise, you aren't annoying me, i'm not pissed at anybody, and i promise i don't hate you at all. In fact, if you look through my account, you can see that i'm happy to be helping people. I've only been on the mix for 4 months myself, and i love offering what support and kind words i can.

    Please rant about whatever it is that your struggling with, and don't ever feel like you can't. I'm listening friend.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    edited August 29
    Sorry for responding slowly and in chunks it's just that I was having a bit of a anxiety attack yk the ones where it feels like everything's spinning and your abt to cry but you can't anyways. I mean I kind of know the difference but not really. I'll just Google it don't wanna bother you
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    Also as a heads up sometimes I just start rambling on abt super random things if I do do that its just me trying to calm down
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    I can't do this anymore

    @Cutelivejazz i know how overwhelmed you are right now, and how drained and exhausted everything has made you. I think anybody who's gone through what you have would feel the same, but as little consolation as this is, it can always get better. Even at times when there doesn't seem to be light at the end of the tunnel, and you're at rock bottom, there still is light, it's just hard to see at times.

    Think of it a bit like a storm. And the storm has thrown so much at you. But with every storm, if you hold on, all storms pass. It's the holding on that's tricky. What helped me was finding small moments of happiness, as fleeting as it was (for me feeding the ducks and then having the ducks follow me whenever i walked through the park after), and looking forward to that. That was like an anchor, keeping me going through the worst of everything. Until things got easier and the storm passed.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    @DonnerKebab yeah that makes sense I do that too I kind of focus on things im looking forward to but sometimes it doesn't meet your expectations and idk it just kinda hurts
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    Im too scared to ask for help my parents will ask a bunch of questions and honestly I cba to deal with that I just feel a little dead on the inside and idk. As far as I know the company only offered like one set or smth idek I did it thru school

    @Cutelivejazz Okay, well, let's look at some other options then? So the Mix actually offer a counselling service that you can do, 8 sessions i think, and it's anonymous, you can do it online via webchat, via phone call or video chat even. That's one option. I think shout do a support line too, texting based, entirely anonymous, which can offer short term support, not exactly counselling sessions but short term immediate support, and i can find a few others for you if you like.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    Also I Googled it (just 3 side notes bc why tf not. You can remeber the differnt between effect and affected with RAVEN remeber afeect is a verb effect is a noun and Google was so successful it actually recognised by many dictionaries including the Oxford dictionary as a verb also Googol is a number and it 1 followed by 100 zeros yes ik very random just thought it was cool apologies if its annoying anyways back to the point) I think I like the idea of therapy more purely beacuse it's more about unpacking and handling things rather than having coping mechanism shoved into your face
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    @DonnerKebab yeah that makes sense I do that too I kind of focus on things im looking forward to but sometimes it doesn't meet your expectations and idk it just kinda hurts

    @Cutelivejazz i know that feeling really well sadly. It can end up hurting a lot. That's why it's important that if your able to, have as many things as possible to serve like an anchor in the storm, not just one. Again, it doesn't matter how small, or silly, or odd it is. Whatever puts even the smallest smile on your face, and makes you happy for even a short fleeting moment. Hold on for each of those moments. Doesn't matter if it a new TV series, feeding the ducks, anything. So even if one is a bit of a let down, there's still other things to look forward to, and more to be excited about in future.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    @DonnerKebab idk i might just wait until I leave home to get support bc i have this thing called family link on my phone i can only use ot for a certain amount of time and after 11 it locks ect ect (the only reason im on it is bc i switched phones so they haven't been able to set it up yet) I think legally I could book appointments and stuff myself but my parents will ask abt it so I honestly cba to deal with the whole explaining and lectures and shit and even if i do get therapy or counselling (the obe i did last time was CBT i wasn't a huge fan of it but the counsellor was super nice i guess its more therapy tho idk anyway im rambling on) I literally forgot the point I was trying to make but yeah
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    Also I Googled it (just 3 side notes bc why tf not. You can remeber the differnt between effect and affected with RAVEN remeber afeect is a verb effect is a noun and Google was so successful it actually recognised by many dictionaries including the Oxford dictionary as a verb also Googol is a number and it 1 followed by 100 zeros yes ik very random just thought it was cool apologies if its annoying anyways back to the point) I think I like the idea of therapy more purely beacuse it's more about unpacking and handling things rather than having coping mechanism shoved into your face

    @Cutelivejazz i absolutely love fun facts. I could sit and talk fun facts for days. Please don't ever say sorry for telling me some.

    So, depending on where you are, you might be able to self refer yourself to NHS talking therapy's.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    Also sorry abt the random mini rants abt random stuff I just thought that they were pretty intresting and I wanted to share sorry if it was annoying
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    Omg im a fucking idiot I literally just realised I repeated myself sorry ignore me im just a bit aghh if that makes sense
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    @DonnerKebab idk i might just wait until I leave home to get support bc i have this thing called family link on my phone i can only use ot for a certain amount of time and after 11 it locks ect ect (the only reason im on it is bc i switched phones so they haven't been able to set it up yet) I think legally I could book appointments and stuff myself but my parents will ask abt it so I honestly cba to deal with the whole explaining and lectures and shit and even if i do get therapy or counselling (the obe i did last time was CBT i wasn't a huge fan of it but the counsellor was super nice i guess its more therapy tho idk anyway im rambling on) I literally forgot the point I was trying to make but yeah

    @Cutelivejazz that sounds extremely difficult. You shouldn't have to wait to leave home to get the support you deserve. If i were you, i would consider asking if your sixth form can help you in any way. For example, they might let you use an empty room and lend you a laptop to be able to access online counselling or therapy potentially, without the constant explanations and lectures from family.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,894 Extreme Poster
    Omg im a fucking idiot I literally just realised I repeated myself sorry ignore me im just a bit aghh if that makes sense

    @Cutelivejazz i once put my phone in the fridge and my chocolate bar in my pocket, when i meant to put my phone in my pocket and chocolate bar in the fridge. Trust me, i have those aghh moments too.
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    @DonnerKebab (i was pressing a instead of @ and was so confused why the @ sysmbol didn't appear idk whether to laugh or cry or do both just thought it was funny so why not share im a very chatty person if you couldnt tell 😅) im stressing a bit over sixth form bc they gave us hwk to do and ive done physics but maths just feels like boring bc its all super easy stuff and sometimes when that happens my brain just kinda shuts down idek why. Im also worried abt getting bullied bc ppl are jerks. Some ppl who bullied me in the past enrolled and I have 1 friend that applied but our relationship is complicated and im annoying extremely social person so I'm worried I won't be able to make friends and I'll be the weird girl sitting on her own with no friends all over again. And when I say bullying I don't mean people just saying nasty stuff I mean like being harassed having people take photos and videos without my permission I was mocked for a year bc I told a kid I had a crush on him. People give me a headache and make me want to punch a wall
  • CutelivejazzCutelivejazz Posts: 52 Boards Initiate
    I also had a classmate say some pretty inappropriate stuff and when I got upset he was like ugh she's too sensitive (tbf I do cry a lot like even over little things I can get upset and overstimulated easily im better at managing it now well hiding it same thing) and kid also tried to dox me which was fucking terrifying so yeah fun!
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