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Fireworks

SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
edited November 2019 in Politics & Debate
Do you think loud fire works should be banned? Was just watching this 
https://youtu.be/co15jyX1_jw

I think the loud fireworks should def be banned and shouldnt be sold at all in shops cause of dog & stuff.  Maybe displayed loud fireworks should be allowed but I don’t know what that woman is talking about - about it being the owners responsibility to manage the dogs anxiety. Sometimes you just cant. I know sainsburys banned them all together this year and some have done some low noise fire works. But still places sell them
“And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley

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  • JellyelephantJellyelephant Posts: 1,846 Extreme Poster
    I dunno I feel like organised displays should be allowed but I’m against individuals being able to buy them. Like around my area on Halloween there was young people throwing fireworks at cars and stuff and letting them off in the pavements and it was dangerous. Personally the loud bangs give me anxiety so I’m not a fan but I wouldn’t want everyone’s fun to be ruined for my sake. If we banned everything that everyone was scared of the world would be very boring lol
    The sun will rise and we will try again 
  • GreenTeaGreenTea Posts: 12,938 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    My fear around banning fireworks is people will try to make their own/ buy them online illegally etc. That would be extremely dangerous as those fireworks wouldn't be tested to ensure they work properly etc
  • ClaraOswaldClaraOswald Posts: 146 Helping Hand
    I think overall people enjoy them, and unless people are having them often I think its ok, however I get what you are saying  <3

    My feelings are bigger on the inside.
     "I do what i do because it's right... and above all its KIND" - the 12th Doctor 💕
    The joy is worth the pain.

    GreenTea
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    I feel sorry for all the little dogs. Who would go out of there way to make fireworks?
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • GreenTeaGreenTea Posts: 12,938 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Those who enjoy them? You ban something and people find their ways around it.
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    I dont think so
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • GreenTeaGreenTea Posts: 12,938 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    I do. You ban something and people still want it. I see both sides of banning them and not banning them. Banning then will just cause dodgy selling over the internet, people trying to make their own, It also takes away an event in history.
    not banning them- creates good family events. I've been to several bonfire parties, food goes out, kids play together, adults chat, then the fireworks go off, all the kids watching from the windows while the dad's are outside settings them off. That's how bonfire night was when I was a kid. A get together. 
    It's part of history.

    My dog doesn't like fireworks, infact I don't. But I'm not gonna go all in for banning them when there is possibility of quieter ones. My parents will sit with my dog, in the living room with the TV on, give him a treat and some extra fuss and he doesn't even notice the fireworks. 
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    Yeah. Loud fire works should be banned & replaced with quieter ones
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    edited November 2019
    Display loud fireworks ones i think are okay cause you atleast you can be aware in advance

    teddy is too noise sensitive tho 
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • GreenTeaGreenTea Posts: 12,938 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    People should let their neighbours know if they are doing fireworks, let them know in advance so they can keep their pets inside. 

    Banning them will just create back street selling, like drugs.
    I mean alcohol is banned in prisons but they still make it etc? You can't ban something so massive and expect back street selling not to happen
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    It probably already happens. 
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • GreenTeaGreenTea Posts: 12,938 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    It does already happen. How do you think kids get their hands on fireworks?.. banning them will just make the situation more dangerous 
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    Na
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • JellyelephantJellyelephant Posts: 1,846 Extreme Poster
    I think a fair compromise is to have organised firework displays only. 
    The sun will rise and we will try again 
  • GreenTeaGreenTea Posts: 12,938 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Are you say na to back street selling being dangerous? We all know the dangerous of drugs being sold on backstreets. Untested fireworks that probably haven't met regulations being sold off as safe family friendly? You even said yourself it properly happens already. Banning of fireworks will increase this. It's just opening up a market places to backstreet dealers
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    I said na to it making any difference. Im pretty sure if local super markets banned the loud ones. Wed hear them far less
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • PoppyBPoppyB Posts: 228 Trailblazer
    Interesting question @Shaunie !

    I do love watching fireworks and I can definitely understand @GreenTea 's concerns about banning fireworks leading to unregulated ones to be created, however, given the negative impact of fireworks on pollution, wildlife, pets, people with anxiety/autism/PTSD and their ability to damage properties and start fires, I think a happy medium is to have public firework displays in licensed areas for Guy Fawkes night only and a limit on how loud they can be. That way people can still celebrate the 5th November but it is in a safe manner and those around the area can prepare for the event.

    I read recently that Sainsbury's have banned selling fireworks, so it will be interesting to see if other supermarkets follow suit. Also I've just seen that #banfireworks is trending on twitter tonight.
  • SkiveSkive Posts: 15,281 Skive's The Limit
    I really hate the knee jerk reaction to ban things that may be problematic. Before introducing an outright ban perhaps other solutions could be looked into. 

    Perhaps a restriction on the date and times fireworks can be set off would be a good idea. Silent firewaorks are becoming more popular, There's plenty of stuff that can be done to minimize the negative impact from private firework displays before we ban them.
    Weekender Offender 
    GreenTeaJellyelephant
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    Skive said:
    I really hate the knee jerk reaction to ban things that may be problematic. Before introducing an outright ban perhaps other solutions could be looked into. 

    Perhaps a restriction on the date and times fireworks can be set off would be a good idea. Silent firewaorks are becoming more popular, There's plenty of stuff that can be done to minimize the negative impact from private firework displays before we ban them.

    Yeah i completly agree. Definetly against a complete ban of fireworks too
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • SkiveSkive Posts: 15,281 Skive's The Limit
    edited November 2019
    It's 5th November 2025.
    The night is filled with the sound of silence. Only soundless fireworks are permitted and only one rocket per household. This is to avoid distress to Maureen's tabby cat, which is a murderous little cunt the other 364 days of the year, and to avoid upsetting the Yorkshire Terrier at number 54, which can normally be heard keeping the neighbours awake with it's incessant yapping.
    Bonfires have been banned due to health and safety, and the burning of 'Guys' is no longer permitted due to effigy specific gender descimination rules.

    People are sad. :(

    Post edited by Skive on
    Weekender Offender 
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  • DancerDancer Community Champion Posts: 7,638 Master Poster
    This would be my ideal 5th November 2020:

    The one and only day of the year where fireworks are legal. They must only be set off between 5pm and 8:30pm. They must only be in public displays so pets do not get scared.
    "There's a part of me I can't get back. A little girl grew up too fast. All it took was once. I'll never be the same." ~ Demi Lovato
    "The way that I have found the light in my life is through the expressive arts because I know that I will be accepted for the way I am." ~ Me
    "I'm going to get strong again and see you soon. " ~ Anonymous 
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    Kasa2103 said:
    This would be my ideal 5th November 2020:

    The one and only day of the year where fireworks are legal. They must only be set off between 5pm and 8:30pm. They must only be in public displays so pets do not get scared.
    No what about new years and all festive celetrabtion  days

    Skive said:
    It's 5th November 2025.
    The night is filled with the sound of silence. Only soundless fireworks are permitted and only one rocket per household. This is to avoid distress to Maureen's tabby cat, which is a murderous little cunt the other 364 days of the year, and to avoid upsetting the Yorkshire Terrier at number 54, which can normally be heard keeping the neighbours awake with it's incessant yapping.
    Bonfires have been banned due to health and safety, and the burning of 'Guys' is no longer permitted due to effigy specific gender descimination rules.

    People are sad. :(


    Hope not. Thats extreme ha. Doubt that would happen. 

    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • DancerDancer Community Champion Posts: 7,638 Master Poster
    Shaunie said:
    Kasa2103 said:
    This would be my ideal 5th November 2020:

    The one and only day of the year where fireworks are legal. They must only be set off between 5pm and 8:30pm. They must only be in public displays so pets do not get scared.
    No what about new years and all festive celetrabtion  days

    Skive said:
    It's 5th November 2025.
    The night is filled with the sound of silence. Only soundless fireworks are permitted and only one rocket per household. This is to avoid distress to Maureen's tabby cat, which is a murderous little cunt the other 364 days of the year, and to avoid upsetting the Yorkshire Terrier at number 54, which can normally be heard keeping the neighbours awake with it's incessant yapping.
    Bonfires have been banned due to health and safety, and the burning of 'Guys' is no longer permitted due to effigy specific gender descimination rules.

    People are sad. :(


    Hope not. Thats extreme ha. Doubt that would happen. 

    Isn't one day a year enough for the poor animals of the world to be scared? I have 3 cats and they get absolutely terrified. I am sure that even Teddy gets scared.

    I have to agree with you that what @Skive said is a bit extreme. But I don't think anyone wants animals to be scared.
    "There's a part of me I can't get back. A little girl grew up too fast. All it took was once. I'll never be the same." ~ Demi Lovato
    "The way that I have found the light in my life is through the expressive arts because I know that I will be accepted for the way I am." ~ Me
    "I'm going to get strong again and see you soon. " ~ Anonymous 
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,418 Skive's The Limit
    edited November 2019
    Yeah teddy gets scared but can prepare them. I think the loud ones shold be banned from shops or some ban around when the loud ones can be.  But all gunna be a bit boring if only one days a year you hear it. But i see what you mean cause of wild animals get really scared. Saw on facebook of one got caught up in wire from trying to run away or something
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
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