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Why should the state finance students in unis?
Should it be the role of the ordinary taxpayer to fund someone's individual choice to better themselves?
I don't believe it should. Universities should have no aid or funding from the state and all should pay for their university education.
Should it be the role of the ordinary taxpayer to fund someone's individual choice to better themselves?
I don't believe it should. Universities should have no aid or funding from the state and all should pay for their university education.
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I wish to go to University when I'm old enough. My parents don't earn much and there is no way they could afford to pay for me to go to University. So if the country was run in your way, I wouldn't be able to go. Then a richer person who may not be very bright can, and they might then not contribute as much as to society as they may pick a job which isn't directly for society.
So wouldn't that be a nice country to live in? eh?
Of course that is unless you can think of some kind of training which gives indepth education of all of these jobs without obtaining a degree.
I don't see any reason why the state should finance people's education, in this instance it's higher education.
If the state didn't fund it, then there would be less people that would go to University causing less people doing the jobs that we need in our country.
Taxpayers money being spent on educating people, motivating people and thus improving society is surely a better thing than spending it on an unjust war?
If people were to individually fund their university education it would only further the group of elite in this country, thus widening the gap between rich and poor. Why should the amount of money you have determine your right to education?
You have the RIGHT to SEEK education, but not for it to be GRANTED to you...
How?
In a developed society like this, yes, education should be a right because it is vital to society.
Yes.
Seriously?
Why?
That would work well. We'd live in a lovely society with only the people that would be educated were the people who could afford it. And the rest would not be able to read and write and clame off benefits. Then the people who were educated would be the only people who could pay for their children to be educated and it would be a viscous cycle. I somehow don't think that would work, do you?
It'd be fine though, we'd just raise taxes so all the illiterate people can have loads of benefits. Mono wouldn't mind that, I'm sure.
Oooh well in that case it seems like a great idea
student loans are exactly what it says on the tin - LOANS. students have to pay them back later on - so they are putting the money back into the pot AND contributing to society.
Student loans are a better alternative to the government financing students' time in university.
Some students from low-income families still get grants. Not much though. My ex applied for one last year.
Supposedly many people want grants back and feel that higher education should be free. I don't believe that it should, that's all.
the title of this thread quite clearly says "loans" not "grants" therefore you are arguing the issue of loans, which as I pointed out, get paid back.
So? What is wrong in that?
I believe that we are all equal and we should all be entitled to the best education despite class, gender or race. By not helping poorer students it wouldn't have any kind of good affect on the country, so why exactly do you think it's a good thing?
Someone with a good education is less likely to be unemployed
and more likely to get a good job and thus pay more money in taxes - you'll back the inital investment probably 10 or 20 times over in extra taxes revenue over the person's lifetime.
I think however if they are to bring back Grants it should be to steer people into areas where there is great need - for instance to help more people to train as Doctors and Nurses.
It should also be designed to weed out those that aren't serious about their education - the 1st year drop out rate is huge and when I was at uni so many students were there because their Mummyies wanted them to go to Uni, not because they really wanted to go there. back then we had grants and if they failed their first year and needed to repeat they'd get no grant - but if they switched courses then they'd get a grant - so many switched courses to keep the money rolling in.
I also see nothing wrong with grants in someways being linked to getting decent grades. It might encourage a few more slackers to apply themselves more.
I'm not rich but I think the state should get out of education.
It would promote freedom.
As has been pointed out to you many times we need the state in education for the sake of the country. How would it promote freedom by limiting people where they could get an education (if they could get one at all) on the basis of income?
Taxation is legalised theft.