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Saw the proof about Iraq.
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They showed a series of satellite shots of building projects in Iraq. In one, they built this structure with a long underground tunnel going to it. They then put a lake over it and covered the tunnel. They also created underground facilties in an area, for American comparison, the size of Washington D.C.
Straight up. No thinking person would assume those facilities aren't for making weapons. No thinking person would believe all of the world's media with their sophisticated computers and equipment would be fooled from some evil US government entity.
And one of the Muslims arrested in London was traced. He went from Afghanistan to Bagdad, to Norther Iraq to a radical Muslim terrorist group to London. He was found carrying ricin. There's a plant running 24/7 in Iraq making Castor Oil that could also be making ricin.
Iraq is part of the war on terror...I saw it in dated satellite photos.
Straight up. No thinking person would assume those facilities aren't for making weapons. No thinking person would believe all of the world's media with their sophisticated computers and equipment would be fooled from some evil US government entity.
And one of the Muslims arrested in London was traced. He went from Afghanistan to Bagdad, to Norther Iraq to a radical Muslim terrorist group to London. He was found carrying ricin. There's a plant running 24/7 in Iraq making Castor Oil that could also be making ricin.
Iraq is part of the war on terror...I saw it in dated satellite photos.
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dated aye? is that why the inspectors are not inspecting it then.. cos it was destrioyed in the gulf war. theres a lot of iraq that isn't anymore you know poet. we cuased massive destruction last time we were there. inspectors aren't exactly piling up the eveidence are they?
Don't suppose you have a link to a page, do you?
The rebuilt under ground MR and under Mosques, put lakes over the new facilities.
:rolleyes:
And don't even start me on underground installations because the USA has enough of those to hide 250 million elephants and Kate Winslet with great ease.
Also the one that said: A day without dead Americans, is like a day without sunshine.
I saw enough. I've heard enough. I'm convinced. Also, I really want to see a Palestine that respects Isreal's right to exist. And it's not going to happen with Iraq as it is. The fall and rise of Iraq is the first step towards a Palestine in 2005.
Just think of the new travel ads for Iraq.
Iraq....rocks.
I swear to God, you should go in to comedy....
Classic.
Link to the story. In the photo, you'll see a lake. In earlier photographs it shows first a building was built under that lake, then the lake was placed over it.
"while no one's looking, i'll tunnel underground... .then i'll build huge boating lakes over the top of them".
later...... "could i get away with it? they say the americans can see through clouds... not that we have any clouds but hey. loads of machinery and men. moving them, feeding them. paying them.
buying the materials. mmmm, are the eyes in the sky going to notice me moving 20,000 men and machines on articulated camels. the billion tons of ground i have to move...all without anyone knowing aye... yes buggar it of course i can do these things without anyone knowing".
Are you seriously telling me this great pile of shite? mr technology
usauk have been flying around there bombibg and stuff and planning and plotting and stuff and they didn't notice this guy, this nation , doing some serious graft!
i find it fucking incredible that educated people can have these discussions and not notice they have entered the land of willy wonker. but people who never get thier hands dirty......
Just like our own government is all about the freedom of choice thang when they storm out of the Geneva meeting of the Bio Weapons Convention last summer the minute that third party inspections to verify signatory compliance with this international binding contract - which we signed over 30 years ago vowing to cease all production, storage, or maintenance of any bio weapon stocks - are proposed for addition to the convention.
Now why arent you wondering what our own government is covering up, especially after the anthrax attacks of last year which were known to have originated from our own military labs.
Not curious either why the white house, the pentagon, and the dept of defence, all stonewalled the FBI investigation and why noone has been arrested to date? - With John Ashcroft telling reporters at a Press conference "We just werent able to catch him" :eek2: (yet they can unmask daily Islamic terrorists for the television cameras).
If so, then you must willingly close your eyes to glaring issues of our own that should be shoved in the face of our leaders for accounting and action to rectify by compliance with our own obligations in the WMD dept. All the more so because we are signatory to the convention.
"Goes to credibility" as they would say in a court of law.
I despair, I well and truly do. I mean, do you just believe what is spoon-fed to you all the time, or is it just on special occasions?
Who says that those photos are either (a) genuine, (b)dated correctly or (c)of the same location? Is it the only independent, unbiased, unequivocal examinatory body, ie, Hans Blix and his inspectors, or is the US and Uk governments? If i9ts the first then yeah, fair dos, but if its the latter then Id take it with all the salt in teh North Sea.
Id love to know what happened to that 'dossier of destruction'. It seems to have been conveniently forgotten now that the UN inspectors have managed to find 10 out-of-date warheads and not a lot else. Despite the CIA undoubtedly telling them where to look.
The inspectors found ten times more in 1998, yet no-one went to war then.
You use this to highlight why we shouldn't go to war now.
I use it to highlight why we should have acted then, or to prove that the UN team in 98 obviously didn't get everything...either way it is a way towards proving that Saddam is wuite capable of hiding things and should never be given the benefit of doubt.
PNJ, Do you even realise how many UN resolutions Israel is in flagrant breach of? Its more than Iraq I can tell you that now.
Iraq is for it if it breaches one? What about a country that massacres innocent civilians, bulldozes refugee camps and detains without trial? What about a country led by an indicted
war criminal?
Israel does not have the right to exist as a fundamentalist, oppressive regime. Isn't the idea of having a one religion state scary to you? Doesn't it smack of intolerance, racism and corruption?
Terrorism is an abhorrent evil but state-sponsored terrorism is infinitely worse. Especially when funded by the one superpower who professes to be fighting terror - The US gifts Israel 3bn every year.
Israel isn't attempting to unleash chemical weapons on the Palestinians, and we don't really fancy letting loose a whole bunch of Anthrax on the Iraqis.
One interesting point though, Saddam is kitting his troops out with biowarfare equipment, you don't do that unless you're expecting biowarfare. We aren't about to try and infect them with smallpox, he must be planning to do that or something similar.....
Aladdin, a nuclear facility is pretty easy to spot, as our construction vehicles making huge underground and overground facilities. Why do you make underground facilities unless you have something to hide?
If it didn't mean my certain death, I'd laugh so hard when it turns out you lot are wrong all along.
There has been no link shown between the September 11th attacks and Iraq/Saddam. Besides which, if we're going to talk about weapons of mass destruction and lack of democracy, the nation which during the Cold War countenanced megadeath figures *amongst its own people*, holds the largest nuclear stockpile in the world and whose leader wasn't actually elected might want to consider itself first.
Pretty big assumptions.
Back to the WMDs, we obviously disagree on how much of a threat he is to us. Even if he has managed to procure himself with WMDs, and every indication points to the contrary, he has not expressed desire to attack the West, nor would he benefit or be interested in such action. Contrary to your doomsday predictions about London being devastated by plague, I believe the chances of that scenario becoming reality are remote in the extreme.
Why? Why would you think that saddam is a 'mad' and 'evil' other than the fact that The Sun keeps repeating it?
Have you bothered to read any profiles of Saddam? I posted a link to one a while ago. Might search for it and read it. Every psychological profile I have seen of the man indicates that he is seriously deranged and out of touch with reality (at least what most westerners would consider reality).
You seem to think that most westerners agree with you, Clandestine. That is obviously incorrect, afterall, GW Bush was elected, and so was Tony Blair.
Nevertheless, that is irrelevant to the point i made previously. Whether or not others agree with me doesnt change the fact that you and others like you that weve had to endure here have repeatedly claimed that anyone who hasnt been in combat doesnt live in reality. Just another of your arrognant and completely offbase assertions, but hardly surprising.
Actually, I've never claimed that. I've claimed that you don't pay any attention to reality.
Oh, and every organization that did a recount in Florida, regardless of criteria, came up with Bush as winning. Your BS about a "rigged coup" has grown old and stale. It simply sounds like the whining of a sore loser. Maybe you would prefer to discuss the election returns from Chicago in 1960?
Just can't admit that Bush is as dirty as the day is long can you? Well hardly surprising that.
Besides, what of the Algerian terrorists who was picked up in London had been in Bagdad and Northern Iraq after fleeing the Taliban's demise.
And an Algerian had been picked up entering the US with plans and bombs to blow up LAX, Seattle's Space Needle and more in 2001. So he was Al Qaeda too...they do have a cell in Algeria.
You mean all those military absentee ballots? The ones that were disqualified by a Democratic committee? LMAO
Note that some of the counts have included ALL ballots. Bush still wins.