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I think the damage has already been done tbh, but im sure some of it could be reversed. Having cats there is not nature.
Also on the fat subject - I can't believe how blatantly embarrassing fat bodies is all about shaming fatties. Even all the little intros with the doctors pulling faces at peoples bodies. It's so patronising. I know the clue is in the title but still
I agree with the death penalty for certain crimes though, maybe 5 level 1 strikes and your out... 10 level b crimes and your out etc or 1 code red motherfucker crime and your out, we could iron out the wrinkles later...
Given that we define death before 74 as "early" and "avoidable", I'm inclined to agree.
I find myself repeating an earlier comment though, this thread is filled with ignorance. The judgemental approach in many comments is depressing and it's not often I quote the bible (cos it's a book) but "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone". This thread reads more like an edition of the Daily Mail than one of educated people, many of whom came here because of their own problems.
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Though, I still kind of think people who can't park should have their cars crushed into cubes.
Also I did try to mini moderate by reporting posts myself, and asking users to try to stick to topic (and I'm sure others have helped as well) but there's only so much I can do myself. I gave up properly about 50 posts in (lexi accurately called me out as being annoyed). Since then the thread has meandered plenty.
Though as I inferred in an earlier post, it can be more useful to say which posts are offensive and perhaps why (SM for example has caused controversy but I think it's clear she was playing Devil's advocate) rather than state the whole thread or line of discussion is offensive and ignorant.
Indeed. It certainly would reduce the number of female drivers on the road :razz:
Hahahaha
If I under-eat I stop being hungry. If I over-eat I stop being full
stuffing them up managers' nostrils gives them a clue they're being unreasonable?
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This. I SCC, she says what I mean to say
You've missed the point.
Your body WILL tell you when you're full. But if somebody (not aimed at you btw) is so used to wolfing food down or just concentrating on how nice it tastes then they'll need to re-learn how to do it.
First of all under-eating is wrong, bad, BS and dangerous. If you leave your body wanting more then it goes in to starvation mode and slows your metabolism down which is what you don't want. There is a big difference between your body wanting more and you wanting more because you love the taste of what you're eating.
The best thing to start off with is SLOW THE F**K DOWN when eating. I've always been guilty of wolfing down a meal if it's one of my favourites and by the time I've cleared my plate I'd have gone way past the point of full. When it's a double cheeseburger or salad it's the same result.
Changing eating habits isn't going to happen overnight, it takes time to train yourself to learn when you're full. I don't do diets, I don't eat anything differently now than I did back in May before I started all this other than I no longer have the 13 inch pizza from Pizza Hut - I just have the 9 inch now. I don't have the 20 nuggets box from McDs anymore but I still love my double cheeseburgers. It's just a case of slowing down and listening to your body. I'm proof this shit works.
I have no problem with the thread just the basis of some of the opinions. Informed debate is good. Ignorance, prejudice and hatred less so.
unless you are living at one with nature, nothing else to concentrate on, and all your food is totally clean, then it is just not to be relied on. My body could easily tell me to eat a bar of chocolate when i havent slept properly or am a bit stoned.
My partner a couple of weeks ago realised that he hadnt eaten for 3 days. he rarely feels hungry. Just has to remember to eat, whereas my blood sugar tells me to eat hourly. I have to be careful not to overdo it and i have to watch what i eat. especially now im getting older. Some bodies over produce leptin, others underproduce it. Some foods actually override this hormone so that you dont feel satisfied after eating it
When I was saying trolling in the first few pages, I was referring to shikari and not yourself. Shikari was posting things which were there to incense and upset people and I reported his post, my angle was' don't feed the troll' not 'your opinion isn't welcome' and I'm sorry if it came off that way. Your opinions are completely welcome.
I understand that, but it's difficult to know how to reply to suggestions of 'general ignorance'. I took offense to that perhaps wrongly when someone else suggested the same thing about a discussion I was in a few pages back - it can be more constructive to say what you feel is ignorant so people can address those concerns.
I've raised the same point a few times. It would be like being in a debate class in school and instead of disagreeing with someone, simply saying 'some people in here are really ignorant'. Nobody knows who you're talking about or what opinions are ignorant.
When I was dieting this was the crux of it and I don't think there is much evidence to the contrary. Humans are not good at controlling their own portions, simple as. I've never seen any evidence to the contrary.
I didn't mean you in this instance. Another user came to the conclusion that I was the troll and not Shikari but that's quite a few pages back. I did feel discouraged to respond purely because I was 'offended' and people seemed to take offence that I was offended, if that makes sense. But thanks. I'm glad this thread has branched out into discussions.
P&D used to be so intimidating for a lot of people, then it died a death. So anything that gets more people thinking and debating is a good thing, IMO.
This is one of the reasons I held off registering on here for so long. I'm guessing I'm outside the target demographic, being 40 in 18 months (I always say I have 3 ages. How old I am, how old I feel and how old I act - none are ever within the same decade) so perhaps some of my views and opinions are possibly outdated a bit? Don't get me wrong, I'm not of the "Send 'em back to where they came from" brigade but there is a borderline-sinister undertone to a lot of attitudes on here which puts me off. Many of those posting in P&D have given off the vibe of "If you don't have a caring and sharing liberal attitude then you're a cnut". It's often like the only acceptable opinions are the popular and trendy ones. Yes this is a help site and if somebody posts a repugnant viewpoint then by all means they should be challenged but there is a difference between challenging and some of the offensive and attacking attitudes I've seen.
For the life of me I cannot find it now but there was once a thread about whether even the most trendy, Daily Mail-hating, limp-wristed liberal judges on appearances and the subject of chavs came up. One such lefty really overdid the "I simply don't judge ANYONE dahling" bit by claiming they had no idea what a chav was despite it being pointed out in different ways. And it wasn't in a "There are no chavs where I live" kind of way.
Anyway someone piped up that if your car broke down, you called the AA and they said they would send somebody out, you'd expect it to be a man. Personally I'd agree with that and I don't think that makes me a "gender stereotypist" or whatever they got called but he got verbally jumped for that.
Although the thread has indeed been a little heated at times (involving myself), this is now how I feel it should be and in fact, always should have been.