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Nah, the thing about (sadly) these terrorists is they go for the nice, quick easy death - beheading. Or they just shoot you.
Odly enough, thier prisoners get better treatment than women. Odd as fuck...
I don't care what arguments are put here, as far as I am concerned, thier is NO excuse for animal cruelty.
I wonder how you know this? :chin:
Is gerbil writing this from Afghanistan?
she said she just found it funny. even went on to say that she could imagine doing that to her dog. im hoping she was kidding, but when i look back at it im pretty sure she wasnt :eek:
YES. Yes, I am.
It seems a bit rich, to me at least, for people to be crying out about the inhumanity of the alleged killing of a dog, and then in the same breath giving graphic accounts of what they'd like to see happen to the soldier.
Comparisons between being a carnivore and killing puppies are fucking ridiculous as well.
I remember on here somebody once saying they only give money to homeless people with dogs because they feel sorry for the dog. What the fuck is all that about?
Than you clearly don't understand that hunting's not purely about taking pleasure in the death and suffering of an animal. I don't go shooting or fishing half as much as I used to, but I can tell you it has never been about taking pleasure from the death of an animal.
Hunting is a selfish sport, but it's not done for cruelty.
Word.
Difference is, the poor little puppy did fuck all wrong, the soldier did
Word.
And a lot of the people that die in Iraq, Afganistan and toher war zones arn't innocent? Bullshit!
You've show more passion about a little dog getting thrown off a cliff than you show about the constant loss of inncocent human life in these conflicts. Wakey fucking wakey mate!
I'm not defending this bloke but what he did pales in comparrison to whats happening to some of the poeple that live in these areas.
Then you call for some terrible things to happen this bloke. That's fucked up.
If you look at it objectively... The means is to make an animal suffer or die and the end is pleasure, then yes, they are the same. Unless of course you have nowt else to eat (and individually I have no issue with what people eat, I am far from perfect).
But horses for courses.
Now if you're talking mentally, people don't eat meat with the intent of getting pleasure from an animal's suffering, they eat it because they like the taste of animal flesh. That man threw the puppy off a cliff and got pleasure from killing it for fun. It's a different kick...
However, from what I know of the USA and without the intent to stereotype, isn't hunting for sport pretty big? I don't know...
I just don't think it's that fucked up that he threw it off a cliff.
Completely.
My mate used to tuck in to KFC factory farmed chicken wings whilst whining about how cruel killing baby seals is.
People only tend to give a shit if it isn't cute.
Tis all the same for the animal I'm afraid... Though this puppy may have had a nicer life than a lot of what people eat.
But hey, it's only a fucking animal. Like I said before, nobody would give a shit if it weren't cute.
But seriously... It's pretty rich when people get all uppity about someone throwing a puppy off a cliff then get all pissy when their own morals/actions are questioned or compared.
A situation occurs where two lives are in danger, the bloke who chucked the puppy over the cliff and the puppy.
Which would you save? The puppy because it's innocent? Or the bloke because he's human?
It is the same as the whole "who would you save, a child, or an old person" or "who would you save, a doctor or a dolie".
You can't put a value on life and it is pretty cheap to ask "who is better, human or dog" as an objective question. It doesn't achieve anything, nor is it really relevant to the thread (i.e. ask me in IM if you wish, or start a new thread). We are not talking about who would be the most fun to throw off a cliff.
Also it would come in to a huge philosophical debate.
The only point I am making is that people are sitting on their high horses talking about acts of violence against this man, or what he has done is horrible. Maybe we should look at how we treat animals in our country first before we start throwing stones.
Answer the question I just asked Namaste.
Your getting personal and your being a patronising prick. Sort it out.
Why, what does it have to do with the thread?
If you assume I believe all living creatures are equal, then there's no need to ask it.
I don't care what the fuck anybody here says about all life being equal. If it came to saving a life I would prioritise. A list of importance inmy mind would read...
Children first.
Thgen familly and Women next.
Then my friends.
Then me.
Then the rest of human kind before and other species.
Can anybody argue with the jist of the that.
People assign value to lives every day.
Well I thought one of the mians arguments you put forward is that every life is equal.
I'm askinbg if you consider human life generally more precious than that of any other species?
Then don't ask stupid questions? What exactly are you trying to prove? Me a hypocrite or wrong?
It has nothing to do with the thread, which is about causing needless cruelty, not putting living creatures in to hierarchies.
There is arguing something intelligently and calmly, or just coming across as annoying and patronising. Your posts so far appear to be the latter.
I agree. And a in general I would choose a youger life, simply because if I were old I would put a young life before my own.
I think when it comes to choosing between one life and another you can put a value on it. I believe that because as I said I would put some before my own.
It's hypothetcial, answer it. And nobody's talkign about how fun iot woudl be to throw somebody over aqcliff ffs.
Also it would come in to a huge philosophical debate.
And I agree with that.
No... I consider all life to be of equal moral worth. However, things are different when put in to practice. It opens a huge can of worms to start this kind of debate.
I'm a utilitarian btw.
Why do you care?
I'd save my friends before women I reckon *shrug*