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and I wasn't asking how much he earnt! I really wasn't.
Of course entrepreneurship has nowt to do with graduating, most the big entrepreneurs have no degree, though that's changing a bit now with the new startups - people meet like-minded ones at uni, business/entrepreneur societies at some unis (Southampton's really good) attract angel investors / venture capitalists who will invest in ideas from ppl about to graduate etc.
And plenty of time to post on internet forums...
If you note, his posts are on a lunchtime or an evening - with possibly the odd exception.
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Gets a little boring itself, doesn't it?
I doubt it...
It's pathetic.
And makes me wonder and question why people are so against others achievements? Why does other peoples success and financial wellbeing create such an uproar?
Would it be justified if someone posts about their gym habits, great weight, and generally great health, that I'd start giving them abuse cause I am facing some health issues which have affected my fitness? Hell no. But because it's about money then people are suddenly a legitimate target. Sad.
Need2Vent, contrary to what many have claimed, has not been in-your-face about his salary (answered a specific question), but yes focused on a certain type of thread which is not much different from the people in the politics/drugs board, who don't post in threads concerning things that have got nothing to do with politics/drugs.
People here need to get over themselves and down from their high horse.
Also, KHSS, no offence to you, you seem like a sweet girl and all, but it is silly to get upset about other people's paycheck. Life is a struggle, but don't go to assume that people with money got it thrown in their lap. It is rarely the case.
Glad to hear it. I certainly think its possible to do it, as I said before, just unlikely. You need a lot of luck and a lot of talent to be able to do it- the talent to be in the right place at the right time as much as anything else.
Jacq, if that's aimed at me, I honestly don't give a stuff about what other people achieve because I'm doing alright for myself. I think it's a shame when other people attack someone because of what they've achieved. I wouldn't dream of attacking someone for daring to work their bollocks off and earn a big pile of cash.
Working those hours isn't really for me, which is why I never went for those sorts of graduate schemes. I'm not being arrogant when I say I have the ability to cope with one of those schemes, I just don't have the gumption to be prepared to work a 70 hour week.
I stand by what I said about the banking industry, and those that run it, and if you're on that sort of packet you are running the banking industry. Banking is about extracting the maximum return from whichever target you're aiming at; that rarely results in morally sound investment decisions. An investment in BAe or Nestle is more sound than in Fluffy Enterprises, but unlikely to be morally sound.
Air Traffic Controling. In Iceland I will start at about 40k and I did some quick research for UK controllers and although I found no concrete answers in the time I spent I couldn't see better than they start at similar rates, even higher.
Those are jobs spread all over the country plus having area/oceanic control centres. I know there's a fairly large one in Prestwick, love calling them cause of the accent.
Usually a very moderate work week plus plenty of time to play golf between shifts.
And anyway, the question is pointless because someone who leaves uni with a PHD in economic studies will do far better than someone who leaves with a degree in Art, wage wise that is.
Unless you're Damien Hirst...
Sadly (or not depending on your opinion) not all art students can go on to sell 'pieces' for hundreds of thousands of pounds. Though apparently you can get into some where big by producing absolute rubbish, there is an exihibt at the V&A at the moment which features four screws half screwed into a wall, and a table which the 'artist' has dribbled some paint on to make it look a bit messy.
I didn't really have a specific direction in this thread. I think I mentioned it - I only want enough to be able to have a big house in the country
I just had heard of a few friends of friends who had these massive salary packages and didn't quite believe it. So really the question has been answered
I'd say Law or Accountancy would be most useful.
Would it not depend on where you want to work though? If you wanted to work in London then you probably would need to best grades possible but if not wouldn't you probably be able to get away with a 2:1?
I'd recommend ones like economics, accounting, maths, business, management, etc.
and physics too actually.
I think really they're more after the person to fit the role rather than the specific degree - you learn on the job.
Southampton is good for maths
Loughborough is good for sports
Manchester good for the arts
Portsmouth, I dunno
But a degree is just a step in the door - a lot of these careers are highly competitive and you won't step into one straight away. The average age of someone starting is 30 I think, and many have MBAs and such. Things like experience, expertise will definately come into play.
I think in many ways now except for specific disciplines the degree you do is just proof that you can learn, and learning begins after you finish. There is still bias for graduates from Oxbridge, but that tends to be more from the fact that the recruiters for prestigious London firms came from there themselves, than any real merit. Not to say oxbridge grads aren't capable.
In theory a 2:1 from a polytechnic = a 2:1 from oxbridge. There are standardised ways of measuring students. But you may get more value added at a bigger and more well equiped uni, and may find you get on better with the course and do better.