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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7112929.stm
Anyone reckon that Islam badly needs a Life Of Brian equivalent made?
Anyone reckon that Islam badly needs a Life Of Brian equivalent made?
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Touchy!!
Fucking barbaric that some countries use lashes as a punishment.
I just dont get what is and what isnt supposed to be offensive sometimes. Its so purely subjective, I dont see how anyone could actually be punished for it.
Doesn't stop it being a fucking disgrace of course.
Depends what strain of Islam. As you pointed out yourself in a previous thread, there are different schools of thought.
Back to this story though. Doesn't Sudan have enough real problems to worry about, what with Darfur and general poverty and stuff? This is an example of how any country that has religious law becomes its own worst enemy.
Why would it be offensive to call a pig Muhammed? Or do you mean offensive to the pig?
Lol - the pig may well be offended but in Islam, a pig is like the dirtiest of animals. But you're right - if your intentions are not to offend, Muhammed is as good a name as Pinky or Perky.
The suggestion that this is really about a teacher having the nerve to introduce the concepts of democracy and voting in a Muslim country are a terrible slur.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7117430.stm
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1294838,00.html
What annoys me is when some Muslims claim that they're being 'demonised' and 'victimised' (by the media)... simply because the media reports these kinda stories.
ffs half their population are probably living in huts made from shit and yet the government has the time and resources to pursue this case.
It is still quite pathetic and disgusting that such cases can reach court in the first place. The thing is even if this woman eventually escapes without any serious punishment many Sudanese women past and future will have endured a different fate.
Gosh I fucking hate organised religion, I really do :mad:
That's right.The non-permissibility of iconography applies to all animate objects, whether they depict a prophet or not. But as you said it isn't any justification for this. If they were going to be sticklers for religious law then the bear shouldn't have been allowed in the first place.
Assuming cuddly toys are treated similarly by kids around the world (i.e. loved, played with, etc.), calling a teddy Muhammad isn't offensive at all.
Other points that make this case perplexing are:
1. The bear was named by the class and not by the teacher. Islamically, children are not accountable for their actions until the age of puberty/understanding.
2. It was not named after the Prophet, but after a child in the class. Islamically, actions are according to intentions and intentions cannot be assumed by others.
The Muslim Council of Britain has said it was "appalled" by what's going on. Is that all? Why aren't they shouting this from the rooftops? Muslims are always complaining about their bad press in this country - this is a brilliant opportunity to change that. Seize it!
TBH I think most Muslims would be more interested in protesting about the deaths of people in Iraq or the situation in Palestine/Israel, rather than all protesting about one woman, as ridiculous as the situation is.
Why don't you go and protest yourself if you feel so strongly?
Surely you're glad that we don't like in some backwards Christian/Muslim theocracy? I'm quite pleased that a child of Muslim parents can snap a crucifix in half without receiving twenty lashings or having a squad of bell-ends erect an effigy.