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ROFL right. I mean by god, if Hitler had not been stopped in Russia he might he made a right turn due south and established a "dictatorship" over tens of millions of Indians like Great Britain. Soon thereafter he no doubt would have invaded South America along the lines of the forged purported map of the Nazi Invasion plan of South America supplied by British intelligence.
Do you defend British Imperialism in the Boer War?
I am not a Nazi.
You mean the same Poland that was brutalizing millions of Germans ripped away from their country by the imperial powers in the Versailles treaty?
I am sure no doubt that many of those Ukrainians dug their own graves before being shot to death with American shovels.
I would change my name to Andrew Jackson but I like the irony so I will stick with this one.
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Are you suggesting that soldiers killed in a declared war are murdered?
The second. But actually the war really didn't end there. More German POWs died in Allied Concentration Camps than in the entire Western theatre of the Second World War.
My quote was about Ireland. Perhaps you cannot read?
Hitler had already agreed to let the Japanese have India.
Should I?
I am not a zebra, but then you didn't suggest I was. Just as I didn;t say you were a Nazi.
You call yourself "Heydrich", your namesake created extermination camps. Is that simple enough for you?
Your point being what? That it was okay for the Germans to invade Poland?
So why invade Belguim, the Netherlands, France, Norway, Denmark, Greece, Albania, Romania, Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt etc etc etc
Or were they "brutalising Germans"...
Can you be shot with a shovel then?
I'll tell you, when it comes to weapons of war, these Americans are really innovative
Are you suggesting that the Jews, Gypsies etc murdered in Heydrich's extermination camps were soldiers?
That the "Final Solution" actually referred to soldiers at arms?
Go on. Now tell me that the Holocaust didn't really happen...
The reason that GB and France declared war on Germany in the first place was because they invaded Poland , Czechoslovakia , Austria then afterwards Russia , France , Norway , Italy , Greece , Romania , Bulgaria , Ukraine , and North Africa.
Look Heydrich , you say you are not a Nazi , you are Nazi sympathiser at least , which is bad enough.
The regimes of Stalin , Saddam or other dictators like Mussiolini are equally as terrible as Hitlers , but we are not defending them.
The British empire did commit crimes , but never on the scale of Germanys ones (starting 2 world wars).
Plus , the British Empire spread justice , civilisation and the rule of law throught almost helf of the worlds population.
Hmm. Not so sure about that one.
We spread our version of justice.
If you think that we are "civilised" then you should ask yourself what is meant by "civilised".
And you need to consider what is meant by "rule of law" - I think you'll find many of the countries we conquered would consider it to be less than positive.
That said, British colonialism does bring to mind the Life Of Brian sketch - "what did the Romans ever do for us"
Ah and also , most of the countries we conquered , in Africa especially , were better off under Britian.
In your opinion.
Says who?
Without oil and electricity, just how civilised are we?
As bad (as indeed random as Heydrich's rants are, you matador have some glaring inconsistencies in the presentation of your own position.
There was nothing civilised nor justifiable about the British colonial era. It was a long running catalogue of human rights abuses from start to finish. Even suggesting it was legitimate and right in any way undermines your position as Heydrich's avowed anti-semitism undermines his.
Perhaps the reason it is a mess, is because of British colonialism. Have you ever considered that?
There is not a shred of evidence Hitler had any intention of invading Ireland. The British on the other hand had occupied and plundered Ireland for centuries.
What a tragedy that would be! I suppose that would mean the British who murdered tens of millions of Indians would have to leave! They might have to get out of Singapore and Burma too!
Don't invent the arguments of those you are arguing with and thus attack them with straw men in the future.
And this means I support Heydrich's actions how?
Absolutely. Germany was perfectly within its sovereign rights to re-establish sovereignty over its own people.
These nations seem to have had a problem confusing belligerence and neutrality.
That is what happens when you declare war on other countries.
Norway violated its neutrality. Denmark allowed Germany to station bases.
Treaty with Italy.
When did Germany attack Romania?
Egypt - a belligerent British protectorate.
Morocco - Where did the Germans invade the nation of "Morocco."
Tunisia - No independent country called "Tunisia" existed until 1956.
Bad things happen in war.
Pasting error.
Sure are, after all, America is the only nation in the world to use atomic weapons in anger.
Show me where "10 million people" were murdered in "extermination camps."
The Final Solution to the Indian Problem?
Did the Romans kill several billion Jews?
#1. Germany annexed Austria, something the overwhelming majority of Austrians supported.
#2. Germany did not invade a "Czechoslovakia." The ridiculous monstrosity called Czechoslovakia fell apart on its own accord, as it was to do yet again decades later, when Carpatho-Ukraine and Slovakia seceded to escape Czech tyranny.
#3. Germany did invade Poland because Poland annexed German territory filled with millions of Germans and refused to come to a compromise. If Mexico annexed Texas under a punitive treaty that is something I doubt most Americans would accept and in terms of sheer imperialism there are few countries in the world that can compare to the number of treaties the Americans broke with the Indians.
Russia was part of the Bolshevik Soviet Union that signed a secret military agreement with Roosevelt in 1937.
France declared war on Germany.
Violated its neutrality.
Germany was allied to Italy.
Invaded because it was allied to Italy. The Americans and British later after the war went about slaugthering thousands of Greeks who opposed the occupation.
When did Germany attack Romania and Bulgaria?
There was no independent Ukraine in the 1940s
Was divided up into various protectorates of countries at war with Germany.
The Nazis did not starve to death 30 million Indians. The Nazis did not exterminate the American Indians or enslave millions of Africans like the Americans and the British.
Which America supported.
Was supported by America as was Pol Pot.
Abraham Lincoln incarcerated by far more political enemies than Mussolini ever did in the Second World War.
Do you defend the dictator Abraham Lincoln?
Germany did not start the World Wars nor did Germany enslave millions of Africans and sell them for profit like Great Britain nor did Germany starve to death 30 million Indians nor did Germany attempt to addict the Chinese to heroin in the Opium War.
So were you civilizing the Zulus when you were slaughtering them? Were you civilizing the Indians when you murdered tens of millions of its citizens?
Yep. Have I defended that? Excused it, or (in light of your later comments) pretended it didn't happen...
So iut would have been okay for Germany/Japan to oppress people?
You really should learn to read, for several reasons.
1. You might learn some history, and not believe that cock and bullshit you seem to be repeating.
2. You would have seen that I didn't say you supported his actions.
At what point did these people become "German"?
quote]These nations seem to have had a problem confusing belligerence and neutrality....Norway violated its neutrality. Denmark allowed Germany to station bases..[/quote]
Was Germany acting in self defence then?
And when you say "allowed" do you mean, "capitulated to German threats"?
So these aren't your thoughts, just a cut a paste job?
Do you have thoughts of your own?
Are you suggesting that Germans didn't kill millions, or that the camps didn't exist?
You stated. . .
Because they were stopped in 1940.
There is not a shred of evidence Hitler intended to attack Ireland.
It would have been perfectly justifiable for Japan and Germany to attack British Occupied India who were engaged in hostilities with Germany and Japan. Neither Germany or Japan however murdered tens of millions of Indians like the British Empire. It was not Germany which murdered the Irish for centuries - that horrid Irish spectre of Churchill.
Show me the "cock and bullshit" that I am repeating.
A question is not a statement. GG
If they were ethnic Germans living in artificial states like Poland and Czechoslovakia - especially the millions stripped away by the Versailles dictate.
When Great Britain and France declared war on Germany it was perfectly justified in attacking Great Britain and France, their possessions engaged in hostilites, and their allies. When Norway violated its neutrality and allowed British forces to land upon its soil then Germany was perfectly justified in attacking.
You mean like your threats against Iceland?
Copying and pasting from my word processor.
Show me the 10 million people exterminated in "extermination camps" under orders from Adolf Hitler.
It is not incumbant upon me to make your argument for you, much less to prove a negative.
:rolleyes:
In both cases I have to ask, was this only because they didn't get the opportunity - bearing in mind their actions on those occasions when they did have the opportunity?
On what basis do you refer to these people as "ethnic Germans"?
So they weren't neutral, does that give the right to attack another nation?
1. I didn't say that Adolf ordered the murders.
2. Evidence of cremation is impossible, and you know it.
3. The ever efficient teutonics kept excellent documentary evidence.
Again, I ask you - are you denying that the camps existed or that people were murdered by the German State between 1933-1945?
Have you banged your head? You seem to be hallucinating you're in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly or some other Western or are you just practising for your campaign for the White House?
The Nazi'sinvaded Poland after a clear warning from the UK/France that that would lead to war. The Nazi's started it. If the UK was so keen on war then why was Hitler appeased for so long?