Anybody want to vent or chat about anything?

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 I know they are gonna get bad. It's been a tough setback for you at an already hard time. it'd make anybody feel low. Words might not help, but, I'm sending you a virtual hug

and letting you know that I'm proud of you. We all are on here. And you should be proud of yourself too. And i'm here to talk to, or to help you find next steps forward if you want, in getting and ECHP plan if you wanted too. But we're here for you. Remember that.

Rose113 · June 2

Spoke to Kelly’s heroes…she was definitely speaking to someone else as she got my name completely wrong when my name is not even similar and clearly she couldn’t remember what convo she was having with who. And they ignored the fact that I mentions self harm urges…sigh 😕

shannon_164 · June 2

@Rose113 like a lot of services, kelly’s heroes do take multiple conversations at a time when they get busy. i think i can guess who it may have been that you spoke to when you’ve said about them ignoring you mentioning self harm urges, and if it is who i think well that is quite sadly the usual for them:( i’ve said several things that have went ignored with her which is so frustrating.

even though you had a bad experience with them though, i promise your feelings are so so valid and we are all here for you

Rose113 · June 2

Hey @shannon_164 it was someone beginning with T, she was more bothered about telling me how she was going to try aerial hoop to

like bruh I came needing support lol not a friend

Now I’m blasting the sad songs

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 I think sometimes the volunteers there might just be overwhelmed with workloads sometimes which might be why they had issues like that. But it is 100% bang out of order that they never picked up on the self harm urges. Have you spoken to any alternative helplines, like maybe CALM or the Samaritans? I'd advise the Samaritans myself but it's up to you.

I know it's hard when it's another disappointment from the system, on an already rough day, but, you are incredibly strong for holding on, and still fighting. That's strength. Try one of these services and they might be able to help you better if kelly's heroes wasn't the best support. You deserve all the support in the world.

Redemption · June 2

@DonnerKebab I have my course tomorrow, wish me luck. I'm nervous

Rose113 · June 2

@DonnerKebab yeah I’ve tried other places, calm tell me if I don’t have an active suicide plan I can’t speak to them and Samaritans call me unkind things all the time

Rose113 · June 2

I’m starting to just choose relapse over helplines tbh, idk why i bothered 😭

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Redemption Your gonna do great mate. If your anything like how you are on the chat's, your gonna do great. I think it'll be people probably in similar positions to us, similar ages, similar everything, so i don't think you'll have to worry about being the odd one out. Remember, it's a confidence course, so everybody going on it will be shy, nervous. Just be yourself and you'll do fine there mate. Wishing you the best of luck.

Redemption · June 2

DonnerKebab wrote: »

@Redemption Your gonna do great mate. If your anything like how you are on the chat's, your gonna do great. I think it'll be people probably in similar positions to us, similar ages, similar everything, so i don't think you'll have to worry about being the odd one out. Remember, it's a confidence course, so everybody going on it will be shy, nervous. Just be yourself and you'll do fine there mate. Wishing you the best of luck.

Cheers mate @DonnerKebab I'm not like how I am in chats or here tbh Im so quiet but I guess that's better than talking too much and over maybe time I should get a bit more confident. Really appreciate it though.

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 please try and keep fighting. I know it's hell right now, especially with how todays gone, and you've already been incredibly strong fighting on, and reaching out, which is a lot braver than me and many others. Do you want to chat with us a bit? About anything or everything. We won't judge, we won't say mean stuff. And quiet honestly, I am useless at chatting, but we can just listen and you can vent. First, can you just promise me that your safe right now?

I've got a few more that will be better than us on here as well if you haven't already tried them: PAPYRUS UK - Young minds - SANE

And, sorry if this is speaking out of term, but i think you reached out because deep down, there is a part of you that knows that you DESERVE help and support and love.

Rose113 · June 2

Sobbing to the point Barney came and sat on me. Just want my stupid life back.

I’m safe but the urges are getting really strong and I’m trying to resist but it’s so hard but reaching out does nothing, I just want to scream

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Redemption Same about the quietness. Introverted i think is the right term. Text chat's are a different thing altogether. But those doing this course, they'll be the same as you and I. Would a confident guy go onto a course for people who aren't confident? Unlikely. You'll do better than you think mate because you'll be surrounded by people just like us.

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 Barney is a good doggo doing a good doggo thing. He cares for you too. Can i ask, you reached out to Samaritans, Kelly's Heroes, and Calm. Have you reached out to others or just these, cause i think the lesser known ones are the least busy and have the most time to help?

Can i ask about what changed your old life for you into where your at now? I know you've talked about your family, and care, and about your friends. Were these the things that changed your old life into what it is now? Sorry if i'm missing stuff, i'm kinda dumb. Do you want to talk a bit about what changed everything and we can talk about where to go from here for you and how things can be improved perhaps?

Redemption · June 2

DonnerKebab wrote: »

@Redemption Same about the quietness. Introverted i think is the right term. Text chat's are a different thing altogether. But those doing this course, they'll be the same as you and I. Would a confident guy go onto a course for people who aren't confident? Unlikely. You'll do better than you think mate because you'll be surrounded by people just like us.

@DonnerKebab yh true dude, thanks so much bro, really appreciate it. Hopefully I'll smash it. Going to go to sleep soon but you sleep well, I'll let you know how my first day goes

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Redemption I look forward to hearing all about it bro. Who knows. Maybe you'll even find missus for yourself.

Rose113 · June 2

Drawing

independent_ · June 2

Hugs all

I’ve been in my PJs sitting in bed since 7pm, don’t feel well at all. Had some sleep meds and cold meds so hoping to sleep soon. But who knows.

So sorry to hear they weren’t helpful @Rose113 these helplines really can be a hit or a miss.

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 Could i ask is that as a hobby and passion that it changed, or planned career wise because of the college situation being changed? Sorry, bit of a dumb question from me.

DonnerKebab · June 2

@independent_ Might i advise hot chocolate. That stuff worked better when i had the flu than anything else. Hope you start to feel better soon.

Rose113 · June 2

Rose113 · June 2

@DonnerKebab a hobby but the career I want is to be a tattoo designer

independent_ · June 2

@DonnerKebab thank you. Genuinely I thought about making hot chocolate earlier but I couldn’t be bothered going downstairs

but yes, it does work. I might have to have one tomorrow, and definitely tomorrow night before I come upstairs (once I go up in the evening I hate going back down lol)

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 That is stunning work you know. Honestly speaking from the bottom of my heart. That's talent, and that's hard work. You should be proud of yourself cause all of us are proud of you. Doggo too i'm certain.

And all the best careers come out of passion and hobbies.

Rose113 · June 2

Thank you @DonnerKebab

Rose113 · June 2

I thought drawing would help the urges but it hasn’t

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 You know i'm not just saying it to be kind right. That i genuinely believe that. My hand to god, that is talent and hard work, and we are all proud of you.

And, that passion, it might not help end the urges, but, it might give you a distraction for a short while from them. A short break where something else can occupy your mind, maybe. Worth a try right? And sorry to be intrusive with this, but have you spoken to a therapist perhaps about the urges?

Rose113 · June 2

I see a counsellor every other Friday however I’ve been to ill recently to do it and I also see my SMHP every 4 weeks however I only really talk about self harm to the head of safeguarding at college as I trust her a lot with that stuff and she’s forever having security or Janis to patch me up 🥲 @DonnerKebab

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 it's great to hear you can open up to at least somebody in your life. So, about the counsellor, are you able to do anything remotely with them like video calls if you're too ill to go and see them? And, sorry if this is intrusive, but do you feel comfortable with your counsellor right now? not everybody clicks with everyone, and you might be entitled to a different counsellor if you don't feel comfortable opening up around this one when you did see them before. Sorry if this is just me overthinking it.

DonnerKebab · June 2

@Rose113 At uni, i got a counsellor for a short 4 session thing, and had to switch because my counsellor wasn't the best early on. And i'm wondering if this might be the same case for you? Sorry if i'm overthinking.

Anybody want to vent or chat about anything?

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