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The end of ASBOs?
BillieTheBot
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The government has hinted it might do away with ASBOs.
Do you agree or disagree with such move? What should they be replaced by, if anything?
It's probably a good thing. I don't have figures at hand (don't know if they exist) but I have to wonder how effective really were. I suspect repeat offenders simply collected them like one might collect stamps. I should imagine the Courts will be able to deal with offenders without ASBOs.
Some were issued under rather farcical circumstances as well. Like a suicidal woman who was given one banning her from entering a bridge, lest she try to jump again.
Do you agree or disagree with such move? What should they be replaced by, if anything?
It's probably a good thing. I don't have figures at hand (don't know if they exist) but I have to wonder how effective really were. I suspect repeat offenders simply collected them like one might collect stamps. I should imagine the Courts will be able to deal with offenders without ASBOs.
Some were issued under rather farcical circumstances as well. Like a suicidal woman who was given one banning her from entering a bridge, lest she try to jump again.
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Was just an over the top reaction to the fear-mongering and panic whipped up by the press about the yoof of today.
Looks like you've missed the boat on this one then. Now you'll NEVER be cool!
For instance, standing on somebody's garden and pissing on their car, on it's own isn't a noteworthy offence in terms of the law. £80 fine at best. But when it's happened to you countless times, being told that the offender will get a warning, or a fine doesn't provide reassurance that it won't happen again.
So I say keep ASBOs, but bring in other methods of punishing people as well. I'd particularly like the power to order reparative payments on the spot. If someone damages someone else's property then they get taken to a cash point or made to fix what they broke. They'd soon get bored of kicking fences down if they had to repair them every time.
Don't forget what job he does
So you're saying if someone is caught in the act of smshing a window, who admits guilt immediately and who would rather repay/repair the damage than be arrested and goto court, still should have a trial? Reparative justice works and reduces reoffending. Its also far quicker and cheaper to implement. Do you also disagree with drunks caught urinating in the street being made to mop up the mess in order to avoid being prosecuted?
Where did I say they shouldn't?
I proposed a more efficient, victim friendly way of dealing with criminals who have
1)comitted a minor crime, such as damage/grafitti/theft
2)Have admitted guilt
3)Want to avoid prosecution.
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Fines don't pay anyway, £80 for pissing in the street is over the top, asking for cash up front for damage is just ridiculous.