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Anyone done, going to do one? I think I give in to family pressure and had better start looking into this...
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However, if you want to do it, and are willing to put in the time and energy then good for you.
If you are doing it for your family, it may be hard to stay focussed enough.
what do you want?
what do they want you to do: the conversion, then the LPC, then be a lawyer?
its a shit load of work, its expensive, - and if you've no motivation you probably won't even enjoy it.
"law or medicine" - presumably so your folks can brag about something :rolleyes:
Doing a degree unrelated to Law then doing the CPE (can't remember what it stands for) so then you'll be able to be a lawyer.
Don't do this because your family want you to do it - do it because it's because YOU want to do it.
If you have a degree in a subject other than Law you can do a conversion course to make you eligible to train in the legal profession.
CPE - Common Professional Examination.
Katralla, why do they want you to do it? Is it more that they want you to do something, or is it they want you to be a solicitor?
Like Otter said, it is so expensive and if you want to do the LPC (to become a solicitor) that is another £8000 or the BVC (barrister) is about the same.
Let me know if you want to know anything about it.
I am going to be a solicitor...if anyone wants to give me a job
You going to be a client Rubber?
If you want to solicit me, i'm all for it
Ewww. All the core subjects in one year?!
That sounds like hell.
yep, land, equity and trusts, and tort and contract with a bit of criminal thrown in! Oh not to forget foundations...
I think your heart really has to be in law to enjoy it; you can't just do something because everyone else in the family has done the same...
Nutshells!! How I passed my degree!
They should be on the reading list at all unis when doing law!
Well, I guess the first thing to say is that law and medicine are very different and it's not easy to switch between the two. Have a think about what you like studying and what you're good at. Do you want an office job? Do you like the sciences? Do you like caring for people? Are you interested in business? Do you think that the law has an important role in our society: would you like to help uphold it?
It's really important that you know which you would prefer and which you are more committed to. These are not careers that you should get into on a whim: law and medicine require lots of expensive studying and it would be awful to get the to university (or law/medicine conversion) and realise that you have made a horrible mistake.
With regard to the law conversion: it is easy to get on to the course, it is very hard to get a job (aka training contract.) I assume from your post that you are already at university (otherwise you'd be asking about a law degree..). The important things about your degree are:
1. you need a 2:1. It is possible to get a job with a 2:2 but it will require an incredible amount of work and a good reason as to why you didn't get a 2:1
2. it should be an 'academic' degree really: e.g. History, English, Maths. Media Studies etc are not really suitable for law.
3. If you want to go to a big firm, you should have gone to a 'good' university. By this, think Russell Group.
Additionally, you will normally need minimum ABB 'A' levels. This might seem harsh, but law, especially commercial law is unbelievably competitive. Firms will get 2000+ applications for 80 or so jobs. I assume high street firms get less, but the ratio of applications to jobs is probably not much better.
The course itself is quite a lot of work, but doesn't require very much 'original thinking'. You are given all your lecture notes etc. You just have to work hard into to be able to memorise it, and then apply it. It's not really think kind of thing that you can cram very successfully as there is just so much to learn.
What I'm really saying, I guess, is make sure you know what you're getting into. There are many many very good aspiring lawyers out there: if you aren't 100% committed it is much harder to get a job.
Haha, I had a nutshells book for Trusts & Equity and Land Law this year. I used to read those before reading the big books!
My core modules at Uni werrreee Contract Law, The Law of Torts, Constitutional & Administrative Law, European Union Law, Criminal Law, Trusts & Equity and Land Law. I thought it was bad having to do 2 core modules a year. I cannot imagine doing all those at the same time :shocking:
were your options more 'fun' then?
Thanks for all the replies.
I had some 'fun' options so to speak throughout my degree, e.g family, medical and criminology, but doing the CPE you don't get to chose any extra topics that may interest you and that is why I would think it would be so depressing.
The core modules are THE most boring areas you could imagine. Except Crime, that was always a good 'un.
Let us know how you get on Katralla, but remember do it for you, not anyone else.
Doesn't that kinda devalue law as a degree?
If there's one thing the world doesn't need it's more lawyers.
No, cos if you've got a law degree you don't have to do a conversion course - you can go straight in to doing your LPC, i think. The conversion is for people who have a degree in something else and then decide they want to be a lawyer.
No sorry, what I meant, and probably didn't phrase it very well, was doesn't it devalue a law degree if people can do in the one-year conversion course what people who studied law took 3 years to do?
Oh, i see. Yeah, possibly, but at the end of the day, they've still got a degree from it and the conversion course doesn't count as one. I would imagine the people with law degrees have a larger breadth of knowledge too.