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I don't know if this is even the right place but anyway ..
so what do you all think happens when you die ?
i used to think reincarnation but after the other day i just dont know any more. i guess i want to know what everyone else thinks.
so what do you all think happens when you die ?
i used to think reincarnation but after the other day i just dont know any more. i guess i want to know what everyone else thinks.
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maybe i agree with that a bit
but its so depressing im starting to just think, thats that.
Its got nothing to do with politics, and there is nothing to debate, as far as I can see. All you are doing is asking people what their (arbitrary) belief is.
Surely people can debate on the answers given?
I'm agnostic, but I'm pretty sure there's something after death. You look at the world, you look into space, and you look at the universe. Everything works too... perfectly. There's way too many "random coincidences" that happen alongside each other, working in unison to make life happen. If you have any understanding of space, of how planets are formed, how atmospheres are formed, how life comes into being, from the start of life on Earth, from microbes, bacteria, single celled organisms... how everything depends on something else. I mean, why does it need to? Why doesn't the stuff that forms planets just clump together then nothing? Why do they work with other elements to produce air? Water? People? Why do people then go on to find a use for pretty much everything? Be it important or not, everything can be used for something. It all fits too perfectly to be just coincidence, or to just end at death.
I have a day off and have been skinning up all morning... is it obvious?
EDIT: HONESTLY, do you have any idea how much of a statistical improbability it is that all the events from the birth of the universe until now allow us to be here?
I suspect an atheistic biologist could argue very convincingly that there was nothing arbitrary about his views.
My friend died a few years ago, and his parents went on a programme to attempt to speak to him via a medium. I know he came through, as the answers he was giving could in no way shape or form be made up and co-incidental like many sceptics say. They were little personal bits that only certain people knew.
Don't think of him as gone forever hun, just think of it as though he has had to go to another place. And I know some people may not think that is a healthy way of looking at things, but its the only way I have ever got through dealing with death.
I suppose so...but its not really a debate is it? Its just stating your beliefs again.
His general views, yes, but not what happens at moment of death, or afterwards. If there was to be any rational discussion the only conclusion to be drawn would be that we don't know.
I suppose its possible to debate what we mean by "death" though. Heart stopping? Brain activity stops? Fingernails and hair stop growing? Impossible to revive the "corpse"? That might be quite interesting. Theres probably accounts from people who have "died" saying what they experienced.
Lots of exciting things could happen; I could be a bit of a star or something.
I reckon it's a 'discussion' so probably sits in P&D, not everything in here has to be a political row.
I quite like that idea, even if it remind me of The Lion King.
We got lucky, perfect age of, and distance from a star. Good weather conditions, water, oxygen etc. After death there is nothing, just as before life there was nothing.
I guess it depends on what your idea of an improbability is, and from which point of view you look at it. 1 in 1,000,000,000? That's pretty improbable. But given that there are estimated to be 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Earth like planets in the universe... not so improbable anymore.
Fair enough...I wouldn't say it was obvious though. My point was that there isn't really anything to debate. Its simply stating your opinion. *shrug*
I like the idea of reincarnation, but I'm not sure how much I really believe in it. I think a probable idea is the theory that we are all kept alive by a sort of energy force, and when we die, that force leaves our body, but still lingers, either as some sort of spirit (no I'm not talking about a Casper type Ghost), or as another life form, or maybe, as someone else said, they form stars or planets.
On the other hand, we could just die, end of, but I don't like thinking about it like that. I guess we'll see when the time comes.
See this is why I'm agnostic, surely you're purely guessing this statement because that's what you think, not that you have proof?
It'd be nice to think the soul lives on and comes back in another life, but i just cant see it. The concious mind just switches off like when you are asleep and the body stops functioning, then you're gone.
Humans just like to believe there is something, makes them feel better.
I like this one I'd be inclined to agree that nothing supernatural happens after death, and if there is... well, I'll find out one day wont I?
I very much doubt it though.
The fact that I can picture a logical evolutionary reason for believing in an afterlife (the idea of sacrificing yourself for your children to survive, for example), it makes me sceptical that it is anything more than just that. Obviously matter never disappears, and will always continue to exist, but I think that since the chemical reactions that make up what we refer to as our consciousness, or mind, or soul, stop happening, this "mind" ceases to exist also.
unless you're stillborn, eh?