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that's like asking most peopl about any hard decision in life, in the end, they think the benefit outweighed the cons
it's in new scientist about decision making this month :thumb:
Pathetic.
i meant 'most', not statistically proven of course, but the idea of making good decision is making sure you stick by the irreversible ones, and fi you make a mistake, you make sure you don't do it again
i wrote original post when drunk, what i meant is that once the decision is made people may regret it, but they think it was the best decision at the time an get on with things, like they have an abortion but next time they might not after how they felt after, or they had a kid, and now love that kids to bit even if having it seemed a bad idea at the time.... both have long term tangible benefits which outweigh the original decision for most people, it's a lesson in life which hopefully one learns from to make better decisions
The only thing that worries me about abortions is the growing number of premature babies who are surviving. It's one thing aborting a ball of cells, but something that has the potential to survive is different. Personally, that would worry me.
Tbh, I don't have a problem if it was tbh. I don't see why a woman should have to justify her reasons to the world. On another note, I think it would be far better for someone to have an abortion and regret it, than have a baby and regret it.
Agreed. It makes me roll my eyes when I hear people say, "I'm pro-choice, but I don't believe a woman should be allowed to have one if..." If it means limiting the availability to suit one's own moral terms, then you're not pro-choice.
Allow me to make something clear firstly. I do not wholly support abortion. It is a subject, a concept, that makes me feel very uneasy. I think that a society which terminates nearly 200,000 pregnancies a year is one that needs to take a very critical look at itself. Incidentally, I am unconvinced by arguments that many women use abortion as a form of contraception. Not only are those 200,000 babies that will never experience the ups and downs of life, that's 200,000 women who will have to live with the thought of "what if" for the rest of their lives. Those who claim, therefore, that I have some hidden agenda against women, are talking absolute rubbish.
Abortion is no good thing, and I do not support it, except in exceptional circumstances. I would have little problem with ending the life of a child conceived via rape or incest. I would be able to support it if the mother would be at high risk of death should the pregnancy went ahead, or if the baby would have no quality of life. Hence why I do agree with this Irish woman being allowed to come to the UK to have an abortion.
However, I am not at all convinced that making abortion illegal would be the right way forward. Whether in favour or against abortion, none of us wants to see women dying at the hands of back-street, unqualified abortioners. I believe it is best to keep abortions legal, where there can be safeguards put in place, and where appropriate, counselling can take place with a qualified person.
Out of interest, how many abortions would need to be stop to the extent where society would no longer have to take a critical look at itself? When people start using numbers, to me it suggests that 200,000 abortions is too many. As would be 100,000. As would be 50,000. As would be 100. As would be 1.
Why? A foetus bought about by rape or incest is just as 'innocent' as one that has been bought about by consensual sex, or from a woman who would be terminating a pregnancy for reasons owing to her mental health.
Don't be so sure. I've had many antis say to me that the woman dying isn't really an issue for them. A certain livejournal user had a the icon with a picture of a coathanger, and the slogan, "If you're dumb enough to use one of these, you deserve to die."
But I do agree that there needs to be better provisions made for women to ensure their care is there for her throughout the entire process, as little or as much as she wants, including afterwards if she feels she needs it.
In an ideal society nobody would have to have abortions. Yes, well, and nobody would get drunk, and nobody would be nasty to each other, etc etc.
But 'ideal' societies and worlds are just utopian dreams. We live in the real world, and we should ensure that women have that choice available to them.
Please, I asked a perfectly reasonable straightforward question. If you can't bring yourself to answer it, at least have the decency to not lower yourself to insinuate that I do not care about numbers.
For your information, I do care about bringing numbers down, but through means that are non-legislative, so spare me the melodrama, it says a lot more about you than it does about me. I've taught sex ed in schools, I help out in other forums for people needing help regarding abortion and contraception. I've worked in abortion care for over two years where I've helped women to find ways where they have continued their pregnancies. I've spoken at many pro-choice events and I'm going to help a friend set up a site that is rather like PregnancyOptions, but to cater to women based in the UK.
Lazy? You wouldn't know the first thing about my approach :mad:
As for the original question, there is one school of thought which says one abortion is too many. This is not one I agree with, incidentally. All I am saying is that, as abortion numbers have gone up, it would help if we knew why. Is that such an unreasonable question?