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That doesn't stop you being difficult! It's not necessarily a bad thing to be difficult though.
But that's totally different. Or do you think it would be right to give treaments for people who aren't ill meant for people who are ill?
Of course it's different! But - honestly! - whether the instrument concerned is a pair of hairdressing scissors or a syringe, you don't need to go through the procedure or be coiffed yourself to become a competent practitioner.
Why do you need to give a haircut to someone whose hair isn't in need of being cut (or who doesn't want to have it cut)? To gain some kind of "understanding" of the profession? Bollocks.
colleges usually advertise for live models or ask students to bring their own model in
they advertise for people off the street, who want their hair doin, to go into the college and get their hair done
nobody gets paid for it!
Yes they do advertise for people off the street, but they public have to pay for the treatment.
And students are generally required to have to have practised first, but it depends on the course/college. Ilora and her class mates may be required to practise first before they are insured by a hairdressing insurance provider to work on a non-course member, it is basic health and safety. The insurance they are under though may allow them to work on external paying clients from the beginning though, it all depends.
Edited because I can't spell safety!
And hair is actually kertainised cells. It has no nerves, but the cells are alive to a certain point (depending on how long your hair is and when it began growing), otherwise it wouldn't continue to grow back when you cut it off.
No health and beauty department at any college I'm aware of pays its models; same goes for hairdressers. Obviously I can't speak for the ones in your area. I have been several times to our local college's beauty department to help out friends who were studying - I haven't paid once, or been paid for my time.
They practise on willing models, often advertising in the windows or getting friends and family of students (in the case of colleges) who are willing to come in. There are usually plenty of people who'd love a free haircut or beauty treatment, I don't see why students should automatically be put in the chair (literally) and especially not against their will. If you can't see why that's just ridiculous then I despair, there is no need to cultivate a sense of empathy and understand of treatments in hair and make up students ffs. It's aesthetic, not a deep and complex emotional understanding of what the client goes through from welcoming cup of tea to blow dry and finish.
i have been a "model" and never had to pay, thats the deal, they practice on me and they dont charge, every1s a winner. Maybe like u said, they`d practised tho, either way i still dont think she should be forced to so summat she doesnt want to
as for saying hair wouldnt grow back if u cut it....it would because it grows from the hair follicle which is alive... nails are dead, they still grow back when cut
seriously, hair is dead, google it x
Wasn't thinking about paying the model for having something done to them. Was thinking more about insurance and whatever else is needed.
I don't need to google it. I'm a beauty student, and have spent they day doing epliation. I'm fully aware of what hair (and nails, since I have done manicures) are made of. Kertainized cells. Which are living to a certain extent. No they aren't "alive" in the manner of how we are alive but if they were dead, they wouldn't grow.
No I don't agree she should be forced into it - I don't like having epilation done on me (In fact I burst into tears today, after I'd fainted while having it done) but the point I am making to her is that she may not be insured to work on "models" straight away. I fully understand and empathise, I'm just offering a slightly experienced point of view.
And most places will charge, you have obviously got a lucky chance at the college in your area.
ETA: I'm aware that they are alive in the root rather than the actual hair you can 'see'. I'm not willing to explain what I have been taught about at which point they die though. I was pointing out it isn't actually dead is all.
That is the point. The insurance becomes mroe expensive when working on external clients. Some colleges wont pay it until you've practised.
About Key Skills - I didn't have to do any Key Skills lessons at college because I got A in English and B in Maths at GCSE level. I can't see you getting shit GCSE results Ilora, so why do you have to do it? Get out of it if you can!
i hope i`m not coming across as patronising, although i fear i am (i dont mean to!) but hair is dead...dead protein
http://hair.lifetips.com/tip/99308/hair/hair-tips/hair-dead-or-alive.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1005121901095
http://www.otal.umd.edu/~vg/msf95/ms25/p4-4.html
Agreed there. Argue it to the MAX over that Ilora!!! I fought to the death over my ICT ones last year, and they put me up to a higher level. So at least the qualification I got meant something
You are coming across patronising. Sorry.
I'm aware by what u mean by dead. And if I could scan my textbooks I would show you what I meant. I'm unwilling to explain Anagen Catagen and Telagen over here though and I do not have a scanner. Me saying hair is not dead was a little joke as such (wrong word but you know) to point out that dead things don't grow back in a way. Hence the smiley.
Right. End of. Sorry for the reaction it's just been a long day.
We are meant to do them and had to do a test last week to see what level we should be doing, but I'm going to see if I can do osmething else during those periods instead.
Same here. God we'd make a good team :thumb:
Yay people who think the same as me!
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