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Curtesy of Bill Bailey
ah fair enough, i thought you meant you were against people eating vegetarian stuff + chicken. but you actually meant you're annoyed with them for labelling themselves as vegetarians when they aren't.
There's some fucking strange people out there.
ALL ...your lamb is free range and mostly organic.
MOST ...of your beef is grass reared.
PORK and CHICKEN ...are the dodgiest.
You say that once it's dead it's done and doesn't change anything whether you eat it or not, that's fair enough but if there wasn't the demand for it then the animals wouldn't be killed.
I've always seen it as a kinda selfish thing. My lack of meat eatage isn't gonna change anything, and it isn't gonna stop the animals being treated horribly. BUT I know that I'm not agreeing or encouraging it, and that makes me feel better.
I also feel much healthier now that I'm a vegetarian, although when I first started I lost a lot of weight. Hmm... saying that, I don't think I get enough of certain vitamins and the such like, but that's because of my diet and I can address that. I can be as healthy as a meat eater, I just get my good things from green stuff and fake stuff instead!
I know. I meant that saying "It's dead anyway so I'll eat it" is a circular argument, because they're killed because people want to eat them.
Quite a lot of breeds of pigs for example are already on the endangered list because they are not profitable in terms of meat production.
badly kept animals are in the minority in this country.
ALL ...your lamb is free range and mostly organic.
MOST ...of your beef is grass reared.
PORK and CHICKEN ...are the dodgiest.
Unless you are Bernard Matthews.
buying fresh local poultry where i live is good ...all free range and very fresh.
all industrial food is dodgy.
Thing is, the majority of people will buy industrial processed meat over local meat from the butcher because it's far cheaper. They won't fork out more for a better product until it becomes cheaper, which is a vicious circle because they are keeping those prices high by buying Bernard Matthews. It's full of water anyway, it sweats something terrible.
ETA - Website
the mind boggles.
You know you said that animal cruelty in the meat industry is rare in Britain? I've just been looking at that website a bit more (click on 'Cruelty to Animals') and it lists quite a lot of the stuff that's really common. Most of it is considered legal - burning off the tops of the turkey's beaks for example - is considered common practice. They claim it's to stop the turkeys pecking each other to death, which they do, but if they didn't keep them in such cramped conditions it wouldn't be an issue.
some farmers ...excava=te huge areas of land ...build underground pig factories ...then put the land back on top.
double decker farming.
the pigs never see daylight and he still has his land.
To the veggies: do you not feel like you miss out on some of life's experiences by not eating meat?
The dairy farming industry is highly dubious as well, especially in the US.
Away from the animal cruelty part ... when was it that people started eating meat in the quantities that they do today? Was it after WW2? Meat never used to be so common I don't think.
On another note, how much farm land and countryside would we use in the UK if the meat industry shrank? It would all be built on before anyone could blink. John Prescott would be rubbing his hands with glee. Sod the Milton Keynes Project, lets build EVERYWHERE! mu haha.
I've got a big passion for food you see. Love the stuff. You know the the M&S adverts, I daydream like that (but I dont actually like the M&S adverts, politically ). I can understand how it might be embarressing. I think I enjoy eating meat too much to give it up. Though to be honest, I do think british people in general have too much in their diet. I like meat free salads a lot, because meat is so full of protein and other stuff that it does get too much.
At least we're not chinese where (previously, I think its more varied now) the whole diet was rice, and meat was 'added on' to give some flavour, but you'd only get a small sliver with a meal.
I agree. When the other halfs parents took us out for dinner we had to get up and go somewhere else because there wasn't anything to eat. I don't feel embarrassed about restaurants, I'm quite open about the fact that if their provision is poor then they lose customers. I hate being a pain when I go to other peoples though.
Vegetarian 'options' - I hate that too - as a default will usually contain one or more of the following:
Feta cheese
Filo pastry
Pepper
Mushrooms :yuck:
Indeed. Going to a restaurant and being told that the vegetarian option is pasta with tomato and basil sauce just doesn't cut it for me. If I wanted that, I'd make it at home. If I go out to eat, I usually go because I want something nice I can't make at home, not to be charged £6 for pasta and dolmio. After a while you get to know the good places to go though.