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The researchs are not about curing deseases as most like pointed out in this thread will be too expensive to be used by the nhs or others, but they are about proudness of the humankind to fight against nature... those days dying at 50 is considered young, when 200 years ago you would have been lucky to even get to 50... The all humankind is driven by a fear of death... fear of what is natural... fear of life...
Plenty do, more do that don't...
I can scarcely believe that you are writing off all medical research because you think there are enough cures in the world. Presumably what you mean is that there have been enough cures created so far to treat all the minor ailments you have suffered in your lives.
What if the bun in your oven was threatened by, for example, pre-eclampsia. Would you accept medical treatment or are there enough humans in the world already and is the NHS far too overburdened with Herceptin claims to pay for your treatment?
Having sympathy for people who lost someone close have nothing to do with the subject, it's just understanding human feelings.
Talking of bun in the oven I have lost a baby last year myself and I still think what I think. It's was hard but that's what life is all about.
The fact that millions of animals have to die for it all the time too just adds insult to injury.
If you want to help the poor, help them by all means, but that doesn't mean research has to stop. There still isn't a cure for AIDS let's not forget.
Its not false sympathy.
I can sympathise with people and still not offer them a solution. Thats not what its all about.
Everyone dies. Just because i cant stop everyone from dying doesnt mean I dont feel sorry for people who suffer a loss.
how else are we to continue research without testing on humans first?
Are we not to feel sorry about a 5 year old kid dying of leukemia either?
every sympathy is false unless it concern you directly imo... sympathy is useless... death of someone close is thought titties yes... but saying sorry is a way of saying i know how it feels... it's not saying I wish we could have saved them at all... death at any age is a part of life... people should accept it rather than trying to fight against it in vain... no matter what you do you will end up dead... if one day I found out I had such desease I will not as the world to kill millions to save me and not even sure I would take a treatment tbh... if I do take a treatment and try to survive it will be for my close ones and not for myself... because of feelings for others and not because of fear of death...
You just dont get what im saying do you? Its not that I WANT to deny stuff to people, its that theyre getting denyed it ANYWAY. The treatment is barely available to any but a fraction. Its like saying give all this money so that we can research all this treatment, but only the royal family will benefit, the rest of you can go fuck yourselves. Yes its still good to have the knowledge (in a way) but whats the point if hardly anyone gets to use it anyway.
The research wouldnt actually even SAVE the lives of most of these people.
fucking barmy saying killing a few more for research purposes is wrong.
the weakness of the pampered modern western youth is showing ...animal life = human life ...utter bollox.
And by the way, most drugs are only produced to improve quality of life rather than extend life itself to a limitless degree.
Are you in actual fact a Luddite?
now ...nothing to do but complain about diddly shit.
the death of every great society ...
fine, what do you think human life will be without any other living thinga on this planet? we will all be dead... eating for food is natural... testing animals but not testing humans is pathetic... as i said many time if research were so damn important humans testing should exist too... I am not for not killing anything I am for total equality... and yes we could eat humans too... i always wonder what it taste like tbh... and if one day I can taste human flesh i will...
you feel equalt to a rat and a slug thats fine by me.
who would you save ...the slug or your baby ...being french it would probably be the fucking slug.
I would most definitely defy anyone here to scratch the surface of the world of animal testing and not be utterly sickened and devastated by some of the depraved experiementation and - even worse - unnecessary experimentation that goes on. I'm sure most people on here wouldn't look into it in that kind of depth for exactly that reason. I do, however, know that there are also people who couldn't give two figs about the animals that are bred to die in the name of vivisection and that is what I cannot understand.
The majority of people can recognise the "necessary evil" of it while welcoming the advances it brings about; that's the viewpoint I can understand... even though it is not my own.
believe it or not ...for humans ...thinking and exploring/researching ...are natural.
do you live in a cave?
Not at early stages ya plank!
Choosing your own child or your partner over an other living creature as fucking nothing to do with it... If I could kill millions of animal to save the baby I lost last year I wouldn't... it's life... as I said it's not about saving animals, it's about equality... and as I said many many times if researchs are so damn important for you all why no one go sign a petition so we can test humans at early stages... but no that is no ethical cos there is risks... but we both know people could die but we could also found treatment that couldn't be found by testing animals only... I don't say don't taste animals, I say test animals and humans...
However worthy you may personally believe that research is, the testing done on humans and animals is nothing of a likeness.
Wahoo... so impress... you forgot the part were i said we could eat humans too and i would if given the oppotunity tho... and i will repeat myself again I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ANIMALS TESTING I AM JUST SAYING WE SHOULD TEST HUMANS AT EARLY STAGES TOO... sorry for the capital, not pissed but people seems to always quote what I sa ad they can bitch about instead of the all thing... I argue about equality of life, not about killing animals... I am myself working for an R&D company so yeah i do know humans like to research that's my fucking job...