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Yep I'm trying to antagonize you, you got me there!
Maybe he's got a mental health problem?
Maybe she's desperate?
I can't believe that there are people like you who are so narrowminded and judgemental. :mad: You obviosuly have NO IDEA about the realities of life for some people. As you said - " i've been brought up.......with a loving family around me". Well lucky you. Maybe homeless people have been brought up in a childrens home, or passed from foster home to foster home. Maybe their parents were alcoholics or drug addicts or had mental health problems. Maybe their dad used to fuck them up the arse when they were 5 years old. You don't know why they're on the street so stop judging.
This comment - "you need a house of some kind to get a job but you have to start somewhere and sitting on the streets isn't going to get you anywhere very fast." makes me really fucking angry. :mad: :mad: You have NO FUCKING IDEA what its like to be homeless, so until you do, please stop being such a judgemental cunt. :mad:
You ignorant little fuck. :mad:
although surely she has a point? yes, there may be good reasons why people are homeless and it's not for anyone to judge them. but if they want to do something about it then they do need to do something to help themselves don't they? it's not very likely someone's going to come along and sort everything out for them. but like i said before, maybe they don't know how to help themselves or what help is available, maybe they don't know where to start or how to get themselves out of the situation. i think that's where the problem lies.
Some people run away to escape abuse, some get hooked on drugs, some have nervous breakdowns and used to hold good jobs...
excuse me?
i said although i was critical of people living on the streets but that i understood that they don't all get brought up in environments such as mine.
so read what i post before you judge me you stupid fucker.
thankyou.
well why don't they seek the help that is available to them then?
I wouldn't know if I could or not, as I have never been in that situation, as I imagine a lot of the "judgemental c***s" you talked about further up haven't either. So maybe we can't appreciate the problem, but people are still allowed opinions. What about those who are just lazy gits? How do you know the difference, who to help and who hot to help?
Read my posts you pampered middle class piece of shit. You have no fucking idea what it is like to be homeless, you have no fucking right to tell homeless people to get off their arses 'cos no doubt daddy will bail you out if you fuck up.
How is someone in London on the streets going to save up the £1000+ for deposit and advance rent on a place? Not everyone has a family to help them out.
You think people choose to be on the streets through laziness?
Pray tell me, what help exactly do you think is available to them? Who do you think is responsible for/ should be responsible for this help and do you consider that this responsibility is being met?
you're the one being a tad ignorant here, you know nothing about my life and i am not a 'piece of shit' thankyou very much. neither am i pampered!
I don't really think about it at all to be honest. Maybe some do. I don't know all of them so I couldn't say.
What help? Do you know anything at all about it? There is very little help available. There is a drastic shortage of mental health provision, of drug services, alcohol services. There is no social housing being built, very few rent deposit schemes, very few good hostels. What help are people supposed to seek?
believe it or not, the government are actually there to help. yes okay so sometimes the welfare state causes inequalities but their are charities and organisations that are there to help people who want to helped.
You really think that people live on the streets 'cos they're lazy? :eek:
i think you're kind off missing the point she's making. she didn't say she expected them to save up money, she said they can seek to better their lives. which is true. it's just that many won't know how to or be able to because of their various problems.
You appear to think that you're experience of the world is the only one and that people should just get off their arses. Well, as you said, you had a good upbringing - don't assume that everyone did. You come across as a smug piece of shit to be honest. Count your lucky stars that its not you on the streets.
at last, not a post where you're calling me a 'pathetic cunt' or whatever it was just because i dared to have an opinion different to yours. i would have so much more time for your opinions, and might've learnt something from you if you weren't so rude.
and in answer to your question. i don't work for the government or anything, how am i supposed to know all this? but as far as i am aware there are many charities such as shelter that can help people. also my mum used to work for a substance misuse clinic so there is help.
I have no idea why some people live on the streets. Maybe some have been lazy before they got in the position where they had no home, is what I'm trying to say, not they live there because they are too lazy to find somewhere else.
How exactly do you propose people do this when battling with drink, drugs, mental health, guilt, shame, no money, shit health, social security office that doesn't care, no housing, no hostels etc. How?
no i do not. i admit i have been lucky, but only because i've got a good family around me and always have a meal on the table. not because i've been pampered. i know all people don't have a good upbringing, i am not the ignorant piece of shit that you seem to think i am.
some very ignorant people here
in expierence ive found homeless people to be genuine decent people, of course you get the odd person who may be troublesome but generally thats down to drink or drugs ... and you'll find you always get people who end up like that when drink/drugs are involved, homeless people included
not that im implying that all homeless people drink and take drugs, its just that most people who have a bad view on them have used this as their reason
That much is obvious...
If you have mental health issues, or drug or alcohol abuse issues, then chances are that you will be on the streets if you have nobody else.
Homeless hostels won't take those with drink or drug addictions. Often those with mental health difficulties end up addicted to drink and drugs.
All of us that work in the field know how crap social provisions are for these people, some of the weakest and most vulnerable people in the country.
There are cases up and down the country where the government, in its infinite wisdom, slaps ASBOs on these people instead of helping them. And, of course, what happens is that these people breach these ASBOs simply that they can get a roof over their heads in prison.
How pathetic is that?
I'm with you on the fact that the government ought to be the ones to turn to, and that they should help. I think, it would benefit people who are interested in having an informed opinion on this matter if they had a look at what 'help' there really is. For instance, imagine if you will that your loving family now, this very minute, decide to not be so loving, that in fact they hate you and think you're the devil's child, where would you go? I would guess that in the first instance you would spend your first night on a willing friend's sofa. These willing friends grow tired I can assure you, where then do you go? who do you phone? write to? visit? how do you phone them without a socket to charge your mobile phone, a penny to put in the phone box, a stamp for your non-existant envelope, bus fare to the council's desk, which when you walk there een though your friggin toe is brocken and hurts like buggery, proceed to tell you that homeless aplications are only dealt with between 9.15 and 10.20 so would you kindly return tomorrow with proof of your homeless status...