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Ok fair enough, but India itself has a minutely small Christian community and I doubt they're that fused on Christmas lights and I don't think Christians here should either, it's about religion, not some glitzy showpiece.
what 2-3%, focused mainly in the major cities.
That's hardly comparable to the situation here.
I think you know what I mean. Jesus even here we'd have our own wee ways of life whereas people on the other side of Ireland would have theirs.
You're missing the point, India has 1 billion people and they're not concerned about whether the streets are filled with Christmas lights and Christmas activities, i'm sure they celebrate it in their church in a private manner.
I get the impression that a lot of people here (who probably don't even go to mass) are making a big deal over this because when they shouldn't because Christmas lights have nothing to do with religion at all.
Does Ireland have more than 1600 languages?
No but what's that got to do with the price of fish?
The point I was making is that if Christmas decorations are not causing offence to anybody, why not call a spade a spade?
It does seem that way. And if they don't like it, they should go back to their own country. Personally, I think this is stupid...
It's a non-story, a fabrication (in Lambeth at least)
Have you bothered actually reading the thread?
No, didn't think so...
:rolleyes:
:banghead:
Kentish...it doesn't offend anyone, it's obviously the council taking precautions in case it does offend anyone, if the community has a problem with it, they should consult the council.
My point is that even if the council does remove the name and some Christians are offended, I say they have no reason to be offended, Christmas has nothing to do with lights and glamour, it's a celebration of Jesus' birth and that they should celebrate it in the Church.
Which is why all of these stories are just publicity stunts and nothing more.
I wouldn't be offended if someone put up some lights to celebrate Divali or whatever, so why would someone of a different faith be offended by us Christians celebrating Christmas?
Sometimes, reading through 5 or 6 threads is too much like hard work if you only want to reply to the one message.
Er, yes it is.
Leaving aside the significant Christian population, India has three major religions playing a part in its culture. Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs are all dominant faiths in different parts of the country, and in places like Delhi and Bombay they are all there in significant proportions.
As for the PC article, some of it is true, but most of it is exaggerated, mis-represented or downright lies. PC is knocking about, and it isn't very god, but it isn't anything like it has been reported.
And some PC isn't PC at all, it's about not using terms that have become offensive. I don't see many people whingeing about how Scope changed its name, and what it changed its name from.
The ones in London feature charactors from the new Ice Age film, hardly the spirit of this religious holiday is it?
and the reather serious problem they have with the extremist hindu population who are happy to tear down mosques on the rumour a temple used to be there
india is secular state though so :thumb:
Can i ask if any of you guys have actually written to anyone about this?
It has getting me down lately and after reading today about Havant Council renaming the switching on of the 'Christmas Lights' to 'Festival of Lights' i was gobsmacked. Even those of us that aren't christians we have always known the holiday period in December to be christmas. Havant council, so as not to offend minorities, have gotten rid of our heritage and named it after a HIndu Festival :eek:
So who's going to be offended now? :chin:
Well i thought i moan enough already so i took action and wrote an email to Tony Blair. All i can say is; maybe everyone should and then he might sit up and take notice. Its easy enough to do, just click here: http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/page821.asp or copy and paste into your address bar and type away.
I am going to go now and bug my local MP aswell now so that it doesn't happen here.
:wave:
http://www.havant.gov.uk/havant-3409
http://www.havant.gov.uk/havant-6476
So they have named it Diwali now, have they? No, didn't think so. Fesival of lights is a generic name, it's not supposed to be associated with just diwali.