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I don't think that is entirely fair. My understanding is that Clarke was already looking at this issue when he was Ed Sec, then when he moved on Ruth Kelly took up the issue and consulted with Jamie Oliver before his programme was broadcast. I could be wrong though.
However, it is also worth noting that the Govt White Paper on public health addressed this issue months ago.
The only reason solution is the one which Bumble Bee refers to and that is people taking some responsibility for their own health. But also it means that the NHS will have to develop over the next few years from a system which treats people after the are ill, to one which helps them prevent illness in the first place. IMHO.
because peopel expect this to be a matter for national politicians when its normally a matter for LEAs who dish out the school dinner contracts, who went as cheap as possible, corruption mainly exists at the local level coz noone cares apart from their council tax bills
But surely this doesn' get round the fact that old people will be ill at some point and certainly more so than younger people.
The only way is for people to work for longer, it simply has to happen.
I have little doubt that I will work until i am 70 and that my grandchildren will wok until they are 75............
Now the youngest you can leave education is 16 and many people don't leave until their 21 and iive until well into their 70s. It seems fair to me we change the retirement age.
The problem is that I should be able to do this because I am likely to have a career in an office environment.
What worries me is the possible iniquitous impact concerning those in more manual trades for whom it is more difficult to work longer.......
Would you want a 70 year old nurse or doctor treating you??
I am not suggesting that people be kept on past their ability to do their job, especially if the alternative is no doctor at all...........
I am sure there are plenty of 70 year old doctors anyway.......
I'd rather a competent 70 year old than an incompetent 35 year old.
Indeed, but many of the conditions affecting todays generation are preventable. Things such as COPD, Liver disease, heart disease etc can be reduced if only we managed things better now.
How you life you life right now will determine your health in 50 years time.
i come up against arseholes like you on a daily basis ...i usualy manage to sweep your kind to one side. and financialy as well.
i would love you and your arogance to come across me and my lack of education one day ...i'd do my damndest to leave you in the gutter.
Again. You wouldn't be saying that if you were living on the poverty line, or would you just die quietly?
have you any idea what you're talking about...
Again, if they cannot afford to?
No Accident and Emergency, no intensive care unit, no mental health ward, no geriatric ward, no stroke unit, no coronary care unit, often no MRI or CT scanner... do you want me to go on, or are you planning never to need any of those units?
If you do then you will find that BUPA actually purchases these from the NHS...
the nhs have served me well ...and guess what RK ...millions more as well.
should your ilk ever return to power and sucseed in privatising the nhs ...the poll tax riots will look like a picnic.
Exactly. Rich Kid, if you have an accident where do you think you go? A&E I assume. BUPA don't have A&E departments. Similarly if an accident needs you leaving intensive care, BUPA aren't going to help you out there... again it would be the NHS. Would you refuse treatment in an NHS hospital? I wish all those who aren't in favour of the NHS would stop using it's services, then it might be in a bit better shape all round.
One of the reasons the NHS suffers from long waiting times is because the doctors who see you at your local NHS hospital three afternoons a week are spending five mornings a week at local private hospitals. I don't claim to have a solution to this, but if more consultants etc worked primarily for NHS secondary care services then the waiting list times would be shorter. In effect the high demand for private consultations drives up NHS waiting times.
while he would like to abolish the minimum wage ...AND privatise health care ...as a business man he fails to see the faults in this idea. he is a bad business man.
no one on two quid an hour is going to remain healthy or honest for long ...let alone pay for health care.
He would do well to look into an organisation called Kaiser Permente. They are a US health care organisation who work with businesses to provide preventative health care. Funnily enough it was the business who paid them, not the employee...
Without wishing to be cynical it may be bad for the economy as a whole, but its not neccessarily bad for an individual businessman. If you're on minimum wage almost by definition you in a job where you can be easily replaced if you leave (whether its because your sick or you pack it in and head for a job which pays).
reason why the nhs was created! even the tories supported it cause it elped busness
I heard that a journalist recently sent some questions to about 40 NHS trusts/hospitals (under the freedom of information act); the document was extensive with some questions having 14 sub questions. the conservative estimate was that it would take around 25 hours (a trust) to answer these questions - assuming an average hourly rate of £20 (senior NHS Manager) we are looking at in excess of £20000.
is that a good way to spend that money?
I'll just pay for whats needed. End of story.
The state shouldn't interfere in matters such as rates of pay, they already overburden us with bureauracy and red tape which simply adds extra costs to our business when we perhaps could have employed more staff.
Just for the record, we pay more than the minimum wage.
It was the government that introduced this bill, and is LAW - therefore it must be done and as you said was an extensive list of questions.
Vivent longtemps les NHS!!!