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Tax is immoral
BillieTheBot
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The government is scrounging off the earnings of people who work hard, it is making money on the labour of others.
This is immoral.
Discuss.
This is immoral.
Discuss.
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it might be unfair but where else is the government going to get money for services, it all evens out somewhere along the line....usually.
Anyway.
But capitalists aren't? How do you figure that out?
Excessive profit is immoral, as is profit at all costs, but making a profit per se is perfectly acceptable.
I suppose I just resent having a big chunk of my poor wage taken for the chavs over the road to have Sky telly when we don't even have one.
Because you have a choice when you buy something.
But when taxed there is no choice, you give the government what it wants or you go to jail.
But where does the profit come from?
How do you know it does?
I have a choice in whether I buy food? Or heating? Or clothing? Or whether I pay rent?
Sure you do. But sadly in the UK the state owned industries (health, education etc) mean that often you do not get a choice.
Full privitisation is the only way forward.
Yes, that was my point.
Maybe you've figured out how to live off fresh air, but the rest of us mere mortals need food, warmth, clothing and shelter.
How is that going to help anything?
People working for themselves and their famalies again, not for a faceless government.
Anyways... taxation might not be perfect from a certain point of view, but in the same way as some people say 'capitalism is far from perfect but still better than the alternatives' the same can certainly be said of taxation.
Sure, we must ensure that the money collected is used well. But as long as this is done, once thing becomes crystal clear: the higher the tax, the better society is. Have a look at the quality of life for ordinary citizens in Northern European countries and compare with countries that believe in low taxes (the US being the most obvious example). Shit public services, shit pensions, shit welfare, and unless you are very rich, shit education and not even access to healthcare.
Fuck that.
What makes me laugh the most is that some of the most vocal detractors of taxation are working class or otherwise non-rich people who would truly and utterly be fucked up the arse if their wishes were granted. Talk about turkeys voting for Xmas...
Gobshite and you know it.
I don't want my money to be wasted on think tanks, local quango assemblies, war or dole cheats, and I deeply resent that it is. But there's nothing I can do about it.
If you think people having access to free, universal healthcare (as opposed to dumping dying people outside a hospital because the managers are unsure whether the person has insurance, and where the poor can't even afford to see a doctor) is a bad thing...
If you think having functioning, extensive, comprehensive and affordable transport links is a bad thing...
If you think giving OAPs a decent state pension so they can live the rest of their lives in comfort and dignity (as opposed to dying of cold becaue they can't afford the gas bill) is a bad thing...
Then perhaps you're right and those societies are not better than others with none of the above. :rolleyes:
It would seem that it is you who is peddling gobshite my friend.
Nighty night...
But if this so called 'healthcare' is a load of shite then its ahrdly worth paying for is it>?
Very rare occurance, this. You are jsut as likely to die from a dirty European state run hospital as you are from this.
If you want to spend trillions of dollars on them then fine, go ahead.
Private pensions work just as well.
This bullshit about private services being in some way 'immoral' is part of the package of lies the left have perpetuated since 1945 in order to increase spending on an increasingly bloated, iinefficient, ineffective state system which enfeebles the population and weakens society.
A truly good society is one where every person provides for him or herself, where government is cut back drastically so it does not infringe on peoples lives.
Yeah, of course a large chunk of the limited pot should be creamed off for the shareholder/s -its basic sense :rolleyes:
Welcome to ancient Sparta.....
Even if you believe that healthcare in Britain is a load of shite (which is not) it is still infinitely better to NO HEALTHCARE.
Is it not?
And let's not mention hospitals in Northern European countries, paid by higher taxes.
Even the Cubans have better healthcare access than the less well off in the US. And that by the way is a fact.
You're scrapping the bottom of the barrel now aren't ya?
Zillions. Zillions uptillions mega billions.
You're just being silly now.
For some.
Are you on ket?
Fact: public services run by the State are infinitely better, cheaper and more efficient than when run by private companies.
And do you know why? Because the ONLY goal of a private company is to make the maximum amount of profit possible for its shareholders. So consumers, service and quality be damned.
And before you mention any bullshit about 'competition' and customers going elsewhere, let me remind you that in practically all cases private companies have monopolies of the services they offer (water companies, train operators) so the consumer has no choice but to use them.
Oh dear dear Matadore... have you had a lobotomy courtesy of the Adam Smith Institute by any chance?