If you need urgent support, call 999 or go to your nearest A&E. To contact our Crisis Messenger (open 24/7) text THEMIX to 85258.
Options
The Terminator lives up to his name
Former Member
Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Former Member
Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Comments
supreme court would never going to allow an appeal on those grounds, i mean its not that unusual if lethal injection kills people every so often around the US
Actually its not, there is this myth about the lethal injection, its not a peaceful way to die, its not pleasant and it shouldnt continue.
The drugs they use have been banned in animal use because they are seen as barbaric.
Basically it stuns the body, so you cant move, but it inflicts terrible pain as the poison does its work.
For one reason or another they have chosen a coctail of drugs that are horrific.
Actually the traditional hanging is the most humane way of doing it if you are going to.
If done properly the neck breaks instantaniously and death is instant.
Well its not, but if you are going to do it then the most humane way should be used, which to my mind is hanging.
The electric chair and the injection are grim and only serve to prove what a barbaric act it is.
Smothering people while their asleep? Decapitation? What about putting people to the mouths of cannon as used in the Indian Mutiny?
By its very nature execution isn't humane.
Though as an aside if the the Californians are only executing someone every 2-3 years and they have 600 people on death row it would take about 1200-1800 years to get through the backlog. Most of these people will die in prison - which seems the best way.
Yes, but its a lot more messy, and the person doing it has to look the person in the eye, which is bad for morale.
Those advocating the death penalty should be made to perform it themselves- and using a gun as well. Let the blood splatter their faces.
I just feel if a country is going to do it then they should do it in the most humane way.
But I think bong misspelt morale.
i would have thought that a doctor who has to look at and inject a death row inmate with lethal crud, wouldnt have a problem killing a man any other way
and as for the status quo of only killing one every 2-3 years, thats still 10 more people dead over 20 years perhaps
and there was uproar in asia when 10 brits were declared dead, i know the total is more now, but it seemed that a british life during reporting was worth more than an asian one
These men were not prosecutor, judge, or jury. The murderer in the situation? Was the cretin who HAD the chance for reformation, but chose not to. So much for the bleeting sheep protesting to "give him another chance". He had already served a sentence for murder, and did it again. He threw away his chance... let him reap his rightful reward.
If you do not approve of a death sentence? Then do not come to the United States, and commit a capital offense. While you (collectively) believe that the penal system is about reformation, the majority (by elective process) in this sovereign nation hold to the premise that occaisonally, one must flush the toilet. While you believe that the refusal to flush the toilet puts you (as a nation) on some higher moral plain... we believe that it simply befouls the air. While you choose your laws - and rightfully so - we choose ours. And should we venture into your little country? We are bound to obey your laws, even when they conflict with ours.
You want to lay some blame? Then direct it to the cretin getting stupid concerning drugs. Not Schwarzenegger's fault that the reprobate decided to murder two individuals in a "drug dispute"... Your beloved "victim" brought that upon himself.
Yet you advocate that for GWB?
Found the testicular requisites within yourself to do the deed? Or simply more empty rhetoric by a self-possessed hypocrite?
Got the spine to get your own hands wet? Or still the lemon jello back?
Then you should learn to spell... :yes:
1. It's stupidly more expensive.
2. It's the easy way out: why else are/were Brady, West, Shipman and Huntley so desperate to kill themselves?
3. Unless you go to 867 different appeals, then I don't trust the police to not fit up the wrong man. Look up the Birmingham Six and Guildford Four; if we still had the death penalty then they'd have got their acquittals from six feet under. Which isn't very helpful.
Interesting to note that stistics have shown that as soon as the DP is outlawed, within a gneration it is seen by most people as cruel, barbaric and disgusting. It happened in the UK, France, Germany and countless other places.
For a country that slaughters (often literally) anyone who "plays God", I find it bizarre that they feel morally capable of doing just that in these cases.
Personally i would find the prospect of being locked up for all eternity a more daunting and trying experience.
Had you paid a bit more attention, you would know that I have always been against the death penalty, even for evil monsters such as Saddam Hussein or G. W. Bush.
Have you answered to my post on the other thread yet? Do you take matters into your own hands every time you think someone deserves to get something? If you are appalled at, say, L.A. gang violence, do you get your Rambo gear out and catch the first plane to sunny Los Angeles to help wipe out the menace?
You don't make a lot of sense Thanatos. I kind of worry about you...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/prisons/story/0,7369,1392680,00.html
there you go again, now i'd like to know why you think it should be abolished, that way we can have a debate.
and if your reading what i'm saying ...your getting it from the horses mouth having spent time in her maj's houses across the land!
the early release scheme makes the place livable for the staff who have to fucking work there!
if there was no reward for good behaviour the places would just be burnt to the ground ...staff would be stabbed and strangled and raped and ...get me?
luke ...you don't know anything at all about prison life ...here or anywhere else.
true to a degree, but would you not take circumastances into effect, what if they are truly sorry, behave well in prison and the authorities feel that this perosn is no longer a threat to society, what if you are a drug addict and commit crimes to get money for drugs, you go to prison and get re habilitated, do they not deserve to be let out, i don't believe in giving everyone an early release but some do deserve it and denying them that right is stupid imo.
yet another intelligent response, instead of rolly saying "I BELIEVE IN EARLY RELEASE SCHEMES OK, DO YOU NOT ACCEPT THAT" he actually made a point as to why they should be there, you could at least have the decency to make a similar response, we accept your view but you odn't accept ours, otherwise you'd have a debate