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Ketamine tolerance?
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'@Let's try that again': Had a look, couldn't see much but can you build up a tolerance to ketamine? Severity/
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Yes, you can and do build a tolerance to ketamine quite quickly. You will need more and more to gain the same effect.
It will be noticable if you use heavily once a week or so, or moderately more often.
Doses of upwards of a gram of pure nasaly are not all that uncomman.
that or just doing one gram lines :crazyeyes
I think you can use small amounts quite often without experiencing any increase in tolerance, but once you start doing quite a bit in one go then tolerance is an issue.
There is also some debate as to what exactly ketamine is in terms of dissasociative/anesthetic/hallucinogen terms.
Yeah, was a little bit worse for wear last night. Came back to see if anyone had posted and it was barely readable.
Cheers for the info, knew it was addictive and everything just wasn't sure on the tolerance, so appreciated. Don't intend on getting that deep that I'm doing gram lines though!
1 - have you done it before?
2 - how are you getting it? Liquid or powder?
3 - how much is it? The price has gone up of late
What I really wanted to post was some advice, from Erowid again, on handling Habituation & Addiction - their idea about setting a benchmark for 'normal' useage to measure actual usage against is a good one if you must try it.
The last paragraph on that page is also well worth reading. Be careful.
Everything I've read has suggest though its not great on your nose its relatively simple on the body. Yes its not stunning on the kidneys when used often and in high doses but to call it acutely toxic I think is over playing the issue.
Also, it does depress the resperation in high doses, but really you would have to try VERY very hard to be able to do that via the nose.
The most likely danger is you snorting enough to knock yourself out, then being sick and perhaps choking.
Yeah, done it a few times - about 6 or 7 in total now. Powder, £25 on the gram; have no idea if that's expensive or not, the stuff is so rare around here even if it's extortionate I'd still pay it.
Does seem to be of a good quality though, I had some ket a few months back and it was a good few lines before I was feeling really out of it, with this a usual small line does me nicely.
Just out of interest, for those who take/have taken ketamine at raves - is it advisable? Obviously not enough to put you in a K-hole, just enough to get that trippy, weird feeling. Thinking about saving some for NYE.. :chin:
Virtually every liquid user will tell you that freshly cooked is better. But on what basis they are saying this I really dont know.
As for at a rave, I know people who do it and I've done it myself by accident with a ket pill once. I cant say I enjoyed it, you're a little too out of it, a little too de-personalised.
£25 on the gram, is somewhat pricey a few years ago it used to be about a tenner for pure, but its gone up since then. As long as its pure I dont think you're getting ripped off badly.
as for clubbing and ket, doing little bumps through the night can be fun, just enough so that where your visions goes a bit where everything seems more real and more 3D if that's possible.
as a general rule though, ket and clubbign do not mix well together. all too easy to doo a bit too much and end up monging for a while in a corner cos you can't dance.
amsuing potting the people on ket legs, where everything goes a bit light and bouncy. where the gorund feels sorta spongey.
Also z0ma you really shouldnt ever drink while using ket, so if you did want to have a beer at the event then you cant.
someone i know who takes it always talks about 'boiling it off'
what is this process?
Basically the best way of doing it is the most time consuming, pour it out onto a dish and then leave above a radiator or similar.
The water will evaporate and you'll be left with the crystals of ket.
However the process can be speeded up by putting it in a warm (NOT hot) oven in a dish.
Some people even microwave it, but I wouldnt do that.
hes told us the story (at great length many times) about the time he took the wrong wrap out of his draw and ended up on K when he thought he was caining coke :eek2:
That's what we used to do.
I havn't touched ket in ages - I've enjoyed it a few times but then I've done too much before and I hated it.
in small doses does it provide any euphoric effects and do you 'come down' off of it or does it just fade like with opiates (i know they arent similar but im just using it as an example)
It's definately 'trippy' but it's more like being very pissed than it is tripping on shrooms. I have never felt any euphoric effects off it either.
as for how trippy is it, ket is the wierdest drugs i have ever taken. can't really describe what it's like to be honest, different for each person. you entire thought process changes, visual and auditory hallucinations, and god know what else.
if you intend on doing it, do it with someon who's done ti before and with people you trust! and start off with bumps before yo progress onto lines.
The heart rate is slightly increased when the drug wears off.
Yes it is trippy, but it depends very much on dose. Its also quite a strong dissasosiative, which can be a little hard to get used to.