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How long have you been living in this world? People are that stupid, and more.
Ever the eternal optimist, me.
Well first of all thats rubbish, there are VERY few problem drug users who are completely lost causes.
As for the 'drug war' itself, punishing hard doesnt work, have you seen Thailands War on Drugs recently, 1000's of killings and still and monumental methamphetamine problem.
The US is the same.
Harm reduction and reducing the demand for drugs is the only way forward.
And why is that Stargalaxy?
I am curious to know if you actually read the article. You may find the audit commission report on the local impact of drug use interesting.
If you would like to investigate why people believe that prohibition is not a viable way of controlling drug use, then Transform have released a report on possible alternative options of control.
And where was it that I said drugs do no harm?
I think everyone who posts on the drugs board, without exception, has experience of the negative impact of drug use, either personally or of someone close to them. Can you answer me then, why do people still take drugs? It isn't as simple as 'just say no', and people who advocate options of control other than prohibition are still concerned with controlling drug trading and minimising harm, just by other means.
them? what is this 'them'? alcohol maybe? obviously not but how can you even come out with that, every substance that has the potential to alter the state of mind is individual. This magical 'drugs' term is a gross over simplification.
Your freind may have wanted to kill himself at one point and it may have been a horrible time for him but 'may' does not equate to 'will'.
And anyway how does that limited observation of 'drug' use give you a complete picture of the entire scope of experience ive seen grand prix on the telly, so driving for MaClaren must be a piece of piss? no.
oh god thats ridiculous. If you believe that then you are implying that 'drugs' put people in a 'better' or 'elevated' state, which helps them escape their life that is 'to hard to cope with'. If altered states and getting high are all about escapism, then everything from bungee jumping to wanking becomes vicious? no course not.
I am really sorry to hear about your mate, who sounds like hes had a very bad time, and im not denying (or conferming) that he has a problem with drugs. All i am saying is that, once again, you've run in with a sweeping and falsely authoritative statement that is quite clearly oversimplified.
I think what Martin was trying to do was contribute to the debate. You can't demand that people respect your point of view and berate them for expressing their own.
no thats not what you said initially, you came in (again) with sweeping statements in an area of discussion that has far too many, and proceeded to tell everyone that
do you actually know anything about the effect, US foreign drug policy has had on poor communities on South America? The hundred of perfectly law abiding, non violent or threatening Marijuana users that Regan/Bush(mk1) decided needed locking up at the expense the American tax payer?
oh and hows this for 'crashing in'
look im all for questioning authority, but god damn have some cause! Do you really think that a moderator of harm-reduction orientated youth project board would suggest something dangerous? and if they did, wheres your evidence?
bollocks, if you post on a public forum anybody on here has the right to contest what you are saying. As for 'jumped up nannies', there wouldnt be so many around, mate, if certain people werent running around making sweeping statements and brandishing falsely authoritative language like kids with guns.
Maybe it would be a good idea to find out a little about what you're talking about before making a fool of yourself in this forum again.
So you can draw a definite causal link between using cannabis and feeling suicidal can you?
but ...i reckon that polly wotsit has nicked most of her stuff from MY posts on here ...
well yeah i mean polly toynbee HAS been known to sound like a deranged old man from time to time
(luv u really )
Now either there actually is something there or millions of people are deluding themselves.
If all use led to addiction and sucicide how many users do you think there would be exactly?
And using that one example to extrapolate to the whole population of drug users. And from there making policy arguements based on it. Seems a little fool hardy to me.
As for giving drugs out on prescription to stop crime then I think it could be the only way forward, they shouldn't be dished out willy nilly to anyone claiming dependance but I think it needs to be considered seriously for the smack/crack heads who are funding there addiction through crime.
I've had the experience of living with a smack head (brother) and the amount of money/belongings he has stolen from me and my parents is massive, always denied it. One of my mates once saw him wheeling the gas bbq out of the drive (thats how bad it was), he's not thick, he had what I can only describe as a disease and he knew he wouldn't get sent to jail by thieving off family because my mum n dad didn't want him in jail. If this had being an option it could have helped him and stopped him nicking. He is now clean from smack but he is now going to jail for conspiracy to sell the stuff, I hope they keep in there for a long long time personally.
But give rocks out?! Thats maddness. Theres no way any sane doctor would prescribe that.
right, thats what you are saying NOW but thats not what you said originally, and you've arrived at this only after 3 or 4 users have piled in with the opinion that you are talking arbitruary bollocks (not to put anything in anyone's mouth, or keyboard ). If this is not what you meant to say in the first place, then consider what you post, very carefully, before you do and if necessary use EDIT.
Drug use is a highly personal subject that simply cannot be judged in terms of causal laws or social trends, you can only infer or generalise and crucially you MUST AKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS.
something to ease the immense psychological dependance anyone know of anything currently being prescribed for this
Because rocks is a bottomless addiction, you will just sit there and smoke and smoke and smoke till you're done and then want more.
With junk you shoot up and then you're set for another 4 or more hours. Plus when you're high you're not going to do anything to anyone. Someone high on rocks is potentially dangerous and unpredictable.