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yes we know how useful it all is, and how badlymanaged its usage is, even though its a precious resource
as we all know too the price is stupidly high
its cause usa is increasing its usage constantly and with china now doing the same, we cant pump enough out of the ground, surely its a sign we use too much
if another big player on the scene emerged like india or somewhere, then itd just be stupid, we need to look after it
not just for petrol but cause almost every chemical we use comes from it, i know i do chemistry and most of stuff we buy in comes initially from refinerys
as we all know too the price is stupidly high
its cause usa is increasing its usage constantly and with china now doing the same, we cant pump enough out of the ground, surely its a sign we use too much
if another big player on the scene emerged like india or somewhere, then itd just be stupid, we need to look after it
not just for petrol but cause almost every chemical we use comes from it, i know i do chemistry and most of stuff we buy in comes initially from refinerys
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Frankly my main concern is global warming. It's getting worse, not better. We're heading for an environmental disaster of incalculable cost. We MUST curb petrol use by all means necessary.
I don't care much for the economics of it, and in fact if very high prices have the result of slowing down oil use, then I welcome the development global recession and all.
Yesterday petrol prices reached a 21-year high in the US. Good. There has been a marked decrease in the sale of gas-guzzling monsters in the last few months there. That can only be good news.
By contrast sales of Chelsea tractors are booming over here. More evidence that petrol prices are not as high and dear as the motoring lobby would have us believe then, if so many people are prepared to buy the big, ugly, inefficient monsters. Perhaps the 'double tax/congestion charge for 4 x 4s' Ken Livingstone was advocating recently is the way forward.
The requirements for maintaining our current (and exponentially increasing) energy demands should have been started on 30 years ago. Given that there is still no viable alternative mass energy infrastructure development in concrete physical terms even today means that when the oil runs out, there will indeed a grinding halt and much disruption to the lives we take for granted in our industrialised cultures for a substantial period before kilowatt output could even come close to current levels. Even the windfarms built in the UK to date (for example) could not do more than power a few surrounding communities without the oil-dependent backbone to take up the lion's share of demand.
No oil, no plastics, no fertilisers, no assembly lines, etc.. its all integrated and far more necessary to even the production of basic consumables than you seem to appreciate.
On the upside, no oil, the end of imperialistic rapidly deployed expeditionary forces to foreign lands and ultimately the decline of the MIC. Hell i'll gladly live a tent for the remainder of my days if that came to pass!
bio diesel? hemp being the ultimate plant.
there isn't enough land to grow even hemp which can be grown almost anywhere and everywhere to replace the ammount of oil used at the moment....and produce food crops.
and some people think we should go vegetarian!
no i'm not depressed about the way i see the world going.
i like to think i'm being realistic. there is no way it can just keep on going like this and as for our technology saving us ...works great in films and comics ...but in reality i see that very technology being the death of us.
Actually it's only when I see the sharpness of my 5-year old cousin that I realise that the future kids have a chance of getting us out of all the mess.
They did, and so did our parents.
I really don't think so.
I have a liberty and opportunities which my parents didn't have, let alone my grandparents.
One of the reasons why the PNAC agenda is intent on a perpetual war cloaked as a battle against terrorism in order to ensure ultimate control of the remaining dwindling oil and gas reserves rests in US and US-client state hands, but even that will come to an end in due course.
Actually that's the thing. Today you don't need a line of forefathers who had a certain name in order to get hold of money and power, today many more people are working their way up than earlier.
Today, I know two 16 year olds who started a jewellery line for fun and whom have had their stuff shown in several magazines, including Eurowoman.
Me, personally?
When I finnish high-school next year I could go to university, travel or work.
Just my parents generation, the choice was only work or studies if the family had means for that.
My opportunities are indeed greater than my parents. And I'd like to see you proving otherwise.
Good luck to your friends though, success at present doesn't guarantee longevity of success especially when that economic payback I warned of comes to fruition.
With globalization you find yourself gaining more information about your possibilities, and being able to expand your limits.
I know more languages than my parents did at this point in their life (then again, when I reach their age I doubt I'll have the patience to know as many languages as they do now), which also opens a lot of doors.
Good luck to you, and remember you were warned.
there are holes being burnt in the sky ...the polar ice caps are melting ...the oceans are dying and rapidly ...there is a world water shortage ...there is a world energy crisis ...the gulf stream is being pushed back ...aids is on the march ...a lunatic sits as king of the world ...and it's all just going to be fine and dandy?
If you're planning to be a factory worker, then yes, you shouldn't count on as big a market here as in the far east.