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Maybe if they gave us more choice before 16, as in creating more vocational courses etc for people that aren't academic and don't enjoy being in a classroom, rather than insisting we all must learn the same thing and the same time in the same way - then it wouldn't be putting people off education so much post 16.
I disgaree with staying on until 18. Why make someone stay on at school and make them do something they don't want to? Jobs with training seems like a good idea.
I'm in 2 minds. I think, on the whole, that I'm of an opinion with Fiend that it would be far preferable if the education system were reformed first. We can't do both in tandem. Sort the system, then look at the leaving age.
Absolutely agree. I think thats utter bollox to be honest. At the school I went to, I was in classes that were lower sets (meaning your expected to get lower grades) because I had operations half way through secondary school. Working in those classes and getting 3A's 6B's and a C was an achievement for me considering that sometimes it was like working in a zoo. A lot of the students by 16 have made their mind up, they do or don't want to study. A lot of them want out of school by 14 so by 16 they cannot wait. Raising this is another 2 years of cash spent on education that has no value, its really a waste of money. I think that money should be supplied to school 6th forms, colleges and universities for people who go to learn because they want to, not have to.
We can't simply have 16 year-olds leaving school with no qualifications. With all the unskilled assembly jobs going abroad (see NCR job losses) and a shortage of skilled tradesmen, it doesn't take a genius to see we need to be giving the less academically gifted teenagers more practical skills.
I only stayed on to further education because I didn't want to work. I've since then finished further education, and worked part time, only to hate it and carry on studying at higher education.
I think 18 is a sensible age to be given a choice. I think at 16 it's such an easy option to drop out and be a bum or go work in tescos, because they're not mature enough to realise that education is important.
However, I think if it encourages more kids to stay and gain a qualification rather than sitting at home, watching Trisha and getting up at 12 (I regret that year I wasted...lol) then I think it could be a good thing.
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Bollocks.
So that will mean there are loads of people having babies to get out of school!!
explain....why is bollucks?
Hmm i don't know what History you did, but mine wasn't anything like that.
If they had done this when i was at school i expect it would have benefited me no end. If i had been forced to stay i would have hated it, but i would have got on with it. As it happens i got away as soon as i could and have done nothing worthwhile since.
I don't have to explain nothing to you. Your clear ignorance of the importance of history is plain to see.
what did you do in history?
I probably did the same as you, but i have the intelligence to realise that it wasn't just about dates and names.
Whilst I'm not a historian myself I would argue that it is a very important subject in itself and that it teaches a lot of useful transferable skills that are useful in a wide range of vocational contexts: Being able to make an argument, write coherantly, analyse different sources, distinguish between useful and misleading information, handling statistics and all that jazz.
You cannot refuse to justify what you have said. That is all I did lesson after lesson in history so doing it for 3-4 years longer than I actually did do it in would have benefitted me no more. All I ever did was get given a text book and a piece of lined paper and told to draw time lines and do Q & A comprehensions.
Now how is doing 7 years of comprehensions and time lines going to benefit me? Because If I had to do history until I was 18 that would be all I would have done.
Im pretty sure my life would have been just as wasted with a history GCSE as it is without it tbh.
I did all this stuff in English. Dropped history in Year 9 and got A in english literature and language...so I obviously displayed them skills - yet I did not work at all in history. So it is not vital to do history in order to gain them skills.