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*shrugs*
Go to the Populus website. (Can't get a direct URL but if you go to the poll archive and it's top of the list, you'll also find on their website a full description of their methods). Knowing a bit about pollsters (I'm working for one in my gap year) from what I've heard Populus are one of the most respected around.
Back to the findings of their poll for the Times I don't think it's particularly significant. It's been known for a long time that there is a significant minority of Muslims that hold extremist, fanatical views. And it's also been long established that the majority of British Muslims do not hold such views. This poll confirms that.
From the poll, 56% of Muslims agree that:
The Government isn't doing enough to combat extremism in the Muslim community
And under 16% believe suicide bombing can be justified against the military, 11% against govt workers, 10% against the police and 7% against civilians.
Of course 'Muslim' is such a broad term encompassing a gigantic range of different people but it's an unfortunate and undeniable fact that a minority of Muslims - but a fairly big minority hold disgusting and violent views, in despising free speech (e.g. Salmon Rushdie and cartoon 'controversy') and sympathising with or even supporting terrorism. But it needs to be reiterated that the bulk of British Muslims are as appalled and disgusted at terrorism as other Brits. We need to engage much more with the moderate majority (who Ken Livingstone has snubbed) and make clear that the militant minority (who Ken Livingstone has embraced) are unwelcome in our civilised society.
I think this might be the second Populus poll regarding Muslim attitudes, a previous one (Dec 9th-Dec 19th 2005, on the archive section of the Populus website) came to some worrying conclusions, 37% were said to say that British Jews are 'legitimate targets' as part of the ongoing struggle for 'justice' in the Middle East and 46% thought Jews were in league with freemasons to control the media and politics. - But in the same poll, 52% supported Israel's right to exist, only 30% didn't and 18% didn't answer and only 16% said suicide bombs in Israel are justifiable. These polls obviously show a real mixture of opinion but I think there are lots of encouraging signs.
I guess it sometimes rarely happens.
In case you've changed your opinion of my views though I'll just brag that I had the pleasure of meeting Lady Thatcher last night at a Conservative event on the Commons terrace. :thumb:
What kind of a man would 'hope' that someone else acted violently towards an elderly and frail 81 year old woman? Sick.
Meh it was a great privilege and a huge honour to meet a true hero.
What kind of fool misses a tongue wedged in a cheek?
Now, that is sick.
Some majority, non?
.......and concentrate on just one thread at a time...........
then he would win an argument, as a luke thread rarely goes fast and doesnt need paying attention to if hes not around, therefore he can concentrate on each one in turn
For a middle aged failure you're very mature. :rolleyes:
And what muslim parliament is this?
Why does anyone need pressure or lobby groups? Why should christian bishops occupy seats in the house of lords? Why should there be a board of jews?
It's all of them or no one my friend.
Why are hyper links not working
i think he means the thread about wanting an english parliament/executive
and i really dont think you have done well in that thread luke, well for your standards yes you have, but for a well structured argument you havnt, takes me ages to understand what you are saying half the time
and you hardly entice anyone to read further with the way you behave at times
Are you for real?
It is the complete lack of sense and often lack of factual basis that confuses me.
He's like a talking version of the Mail.
13% eh?
I bet MORE than 13% of White British folk think Hitler was brilliant. Pretty much all of the Daily Mail... they did support him.
it is 13% and it was done in a phone poll by the times over just over 1000 people who claim to be muslims, and then this was weighted to apply to the full muslim population - was reading the full thing yesterday, odd thing is that over 50% of those questiond reckon not enogh is done to fight terroism, and well over 80% would be pleased or indifferent if someone in their family became a copper, bout the same as non-muslims, as theres always some people who dread the thought of a relative copper