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Tories: We'll build more prisons

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Do you have a specific example you are thinking of?


    A Iranian came to Britain in 2005... broke the law... sent to prison.... instead send the Iranian back to his.her own country.... = free prison places for our criminals.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Do you have a specific example you are thinking of?


    A Iranian came to Britain in 2005... broke the law... sent to prison.... instead send the Iranian back to his.her own country.... = free prison places for our criminals.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    A specific example? Where? I must have missed it.
    You did indeed, in this very thread.

    eta: http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showpost.php?p=1725565&postcount=89
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    A Iranian came to Britain in 2005... broke the law... sent to prison.... instead send the Iranian back to his.her own country.... = free prison places for our criminals.

    I'll ask again. Do you have a specific example? Yes/no.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    You did indeed, in this very thread.

    Can you point me to it please?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Is a specific example really relevent? Are you denying the existance of foreign nationals currently held at her majesty pleasure?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    Is a specific example really relevent?

    Of course it is. Unless you think that all criminal cases are the same.
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    Are you denying the existance of foreign nationals currently held at her majesty pleasure?

    Yes. Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well then, you can clearly see (and if you can't then I've been over-estimating your abilities this last couple of years) that Luke thinks that all foreign nationals that break british law should be deported. What's wrong with that?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Would you support such a move Blagsta?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    Well then, you can clearly see (and if you can't then I've been over-estimating your abilities this last couple of years) that Luke thinks that all foreign nationals that break british law should be deported. What's wrong with that?

    So luke doesn't have a specific example then.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    Would you support such a move Blagsta?

    Such a move to do what? Deport all foreign criminals regardless of the circumstances and their crime?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    So luke doesn't have a specific example then.
    You don't need any examples you idiot.

    You either support such a move or you don't.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    A specific example is irrelevant unless you deny the existance of foreign nationals held by the british justice system. It's not a case of how bad they've been, simply that they are not UK citizens and have broken UK law so they are deported from the UK. How hard is that to address?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    You don't need any examples you idiot.

    You either support such a move or you don't.

    It must be nice to live in such a simple world.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Such a move to do what? Deport all foreign criminals regardless of the circumstances and their crime?
    I notice your skills at directly answering a question have yet again evaporated. You could outdo even our most evasive politicians.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    A specific example is irrelevant unless you deny the existance of foreign nationals held by the british justice system. It's not a case of how bad they've been, simply that they are not UK citizens and have broken UK law so they are deported from the UK. How hard is that to address?

    So all circumstances and crimes are exactly the same are they?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    It must be nice to live in such a simple world.
    Are you sure you're not an MP? You never answer a bloody question.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    I notice your skills at directly answering a question have yet again evaporated...

    I notice your ability to think in more than black/white about the world is still non-existent.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    It must be nice to live in such a simple world.
    What's wrong with it? What is wrong with instead of imprisoning a criminal, we send them back to their native country?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    So all circumstances and crimes are exactly the same are they?
    yes, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Are you sure you're not an MP? You never answer a bloody question.

    What question? Should all foreign criminals be deported, regardless of crime and circumstance? Well the answer then is no. Should some in some circumstances? Well possibly yes, but it depends on the circumstances.
    That better? Or do you need it in words of one syllable?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    What question? Should all foreign criminals be deported, regardless of crime and circumstance? Well the answer then is no. Should some in some circumstances? Well possibly yes, but it depends on the circumstances.
    That better? Or do you need it in words of one syllable?
    What circumstances are these then? I bet under your circumstances they have to rape and murder around 1,000 Englishmen before they are deported.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    What circumstances are these then?

    This is what I'm asking you. Have you got a specific example in mind that triggered this particular rant? Or are you just frothing at the mouth again?
    luke88 wrote:
    I bet under your circumstances they have to rape and murder around 1,000 Englishmen before they are deported.

    Yes, thats quite right. I fully support the rights of foreigners to rape and murder. Especially if they're dark skinned.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    What circumstances are these then? I bet under your circumstances they have to rape and murder around 1,000 Englishmen before they are deported.
    Luke, that's a ridicilous thing to say.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Luke, that's a ridicilous thing to say.
    I know, i regret it now but can't anyone see how he winds people up. Ok Blasgta here's an exmple... what would you do if...


    a foreign national has been in the Uk for a few years illegally, rapes a young girl of 16.... what do we do with him?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke, I'm asking for specific examples. You got any?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    luke, I'm asking for specific examples. You got any?
    You're never one to allow yourself to be bogged down in examples, or dare we say it, details. Why should he provide one?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Such a move to do what? Deport all foreign criminals regardless of the circumstances and their crime?

    Yes, illegal criminals who commit any crime that merits prison. I think it's a good idea actually, one strike and you're out, lets remember it takes quite a lot to get to prison these days.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    Yes, illegal criminals who commit any crime that merits prison. I think it's a good idea actually, one strike and you're out, lets remember it takes quite a lot to get to prison these days.
    Agree with this one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    You're never one to allow yourself to be bogged down in examples, or dare we say it, details.

    Well that's a lie for a start.
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Why should he provide one?

    He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to of course. What an odd thing to ask. :confused:
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