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this has been quoted from the news link that wheresmyplacebo posted in the opening post of this thread, much complaint about why the UK isnt doing anything about them
when infact the only reason people are looking at the UK to do something, is because the international criminal court are being lax and trying to save money and time.
So if things had been followed up correctly, then the situation we are discussing now, wouldnt have come about. Just because he is in our country now, why should we have to do anything about it.
I'm actually quite surprised, I assumed you were reactionary and right-wing, but to suggest the use of torture as a means of punishment, there arent many countries which would agree with you. At least not many countries you'd want to live in anyway.
and anyways i thought we were on about torture, not actual executions
because it says a lot about holding known genocidal conspirators, our government could at least be trying to push for the due process which should of been done by now
use some of our influence to get an indictment etc
dont you feel ashamed to be in a country that has people known to have carried genocide, and we aren't doing anything to get them to stand trial for their supposed crimes for which there is hundreds of witness statements
is that these big moral issues dont effect people on the street level
the problem with society these days, is that it degenerates, because its no longer any use being able to survive purely on moral fibre, and with less and less of it, we begin a downward and continuous cycle that we cant get out of
i am bothered that i live in a country that is doing nothing about it, the reason i questioned people in here, is because i want to make sure due process is followed and the UK doesnt become as bad in moral terms as rwanda, or at least avoid the downward spiral that will lead us there
truth is, people look out for themselves, and only for others if it then benefits them, yes there are nice people in the world, but too few to help the too many, thats what really makes me sad
Tony Blair is a MASS MURDERER!
Why the fuck would he be interested in creating any sort of system of justice?
:crying: i agree
think ill email the new foriegn secretery to see if the government is thinking of doing anything
as will i, i think i will go type a letter out and send one as well
ps. first time in a while im posting regualrly on issues in p&d, believe im getting my form back
Why dont we just kill all those convicted of any crime then.
why dont we kill all likely victims of crime then criminals would not have any one to target.
Also if we suddenly carpet bombed the centre of most towns at kicking out time, alcohol related crime would suddenly drop
Or write to the man who robbed your house asking him to spend the cash he made wisely?
Jesus.
Seems fair to me. As long as the law applies equally to everyone with no excuses and you can prove jurisdiction.
I'm being glib of course, but that's basically what SG is suggesting, he's further right than the BNP.
SG; If I'm not mistaken you're thinking of doing politics at Uni, if so you really need to notice that the World isnt as black and white as you think.
cause if the world was black and white, it would be easier to spot the racists, no more confusion over yellows and oranges etc
well i resent the fact that you appear to be making it blatenly obvious that you do view the world in black and white, especially from the narrowminded and conflicting views you are posting
It just seems to me that you dont realise there are shades, that issues are more complex than just 'sling em out' or 'they're criminals they deserve to be treated badly'.
I just dont think you really have any experience with criminals or prison and until you do you wont understand that torture or degrading treatment is wrong regardless of what the person has done.