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And if it's MY room?
Who are you to tell me what to do in my own house, in my own business?
If you don't like the service I provide, don't come.
I am afraid you have missed what the government is and how it operates. the "ban" will only be made to happen through threats, intimidation, kidnap, physical abuse and caging.
All government action is violent. They send threats, then they send more threats, then they send people to force you to obey.
It's either directly violent, or it's paid for with money that has been acquired through violence.
any other methods you suggest?
once we have voted them in they have to keep power somehow... it's better than not getting the chance to vote at all.
You mean apart from letting people decide for themselves what they will do?
i.e. leaving people alone unless they ask for your "help".
And if no one voted they would stop using force to tell us what to do? :rolleyes:
There are limited uses for men with guns. Just my opinion. Catching criminals, defending aganist outside invaders, sure. Harrassing ordinary people at work and play? No thanks.
Could do that.. Most would decide to exploit this system I think you'll find..
You say the threats are what makes the system work... then people that were worried about consequence would lose than inhibition and just do what they wanted (build anywhere, take whatever they wanted... why pay for things when that isnt what you want to do? ...noone would be there to enforce it)
Have YOU ever noticed how inquisitive a child can be ? I find it beautiful to behold. Watch their eyes especially and imagine what is going through their minds. "SCHOOL" attempts to kill that. ( "School" used as a verb means "to bring under control" but I think that is a discussion for another thread).
What "stupid" thing have I questioned ? What am I "trying to argue" ?
so -£9bn then. You'd give them that much?
You see you have fallen into the trap which suggests that smokers "cost" the taxpayer, when in reality it's the other way around.
If anything smokers should be asking why they should continue to fund your healthcare, and once again I'm going to have to point out that non-smoker get ill every day (more of them die than smokers too
No no, just the bills, not the revenue
And the shit they put others through by smoking near them, giving them health problems and making them uncomfortable...
Why should they fund my healthcare? I don't know, they haven't funded anything for me yet. If they need nicotine that much can't they just go for the gum and hold a pencil in their hand or something? It won't piss everyone else off.
Plus the only reason more non-smokers die is because there are more of them lol! I think it's pretty sick that the government benefit from people's addictions like that but hey... Also, as you say, non smokers live longer... that just means they're paying more tax and have generally not been taking up the hospital beds.
Ah, the "cake and eat it" syndrome
Except maybe your birth, and any other time you have used healthcare - you know GP for example...?
The point I was making was that being a smoker isn't the only thing which will kill you, or make you ill. But it's one of the few things which you will ban for doing so.
Not taking up beds? Who do you think is in them then, just smokers?
Like I said, non-smokers get ill too... but if you take away the tax revenue from smoking, you are left with a gap but an increased cost as those people who would have died from smoking live longer and therefore use more services, require their own state pension etc