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Total Smoking Ban Passed!
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Shame none of the MPs that voted for this were bright enough to realise that no smoking in pubs means more smoking in homes where children are around…
The right for people to be able to work and socialise without being poisoned into an early grave far far outweighs the right for people to poison others into an early grave.
If you're for congestion charging and high car tax, you're for this. Simple.
Go to a pub with a non-smoking area or a non-smoking pub. Surely if there was public demand for non-smoking pubs and such the market would have created them?
What about children at home? Do they have the right not to be poisoned into an early grave? – Shall we ban smoking in homes with children around too?
What about the ‘right’ of the owner of a pub to be allowed to make a decision that massively affects their business instead of having it forced upon them by busybody non-smokers? (Plenty of whom don’t go to the pub anyway and never would). Meanwhile I'm off to the pub and gonna smoke like a chimney!
I shall write to my MP to find out which sock to put on first in the morning in advance of the legislation that must be inevitably on it's way.
I think the best would be this: It's illegal for people to smoke in pubs and clubs unless said establishment has a separate room for smokers which is completely sealed from the normal area, and placed in such a part of the establishment that no one who doesn't want to would have to pass through there (meaning that the places where you order food/drinks or anything must be in the normal area and not inside the smoking room, and it would also be illegal for anyone from the smoking room to carry the cigarette or whatever outside it).
You talk about you wanting to be allowed to do what you like, not effected by anyone else right?
Why should you be allowed to poison me in a club (no non smoking sections in some of these) when i prefer not to smoke?
You contradict your stated beliefs going against this legislation
Excellent point. I agree completly.
And their excuse is that is for the health of everyone, but if everyone was really
worried about there health they would go down to the pub to drink alcohol.
If you want to be healthy those day good luck, there is so much shit in the air
you are breathing crap all day long anyway.
At least smokers know the shit they put in their lughs.
Does this mean that all Smoke machines in clubs are also to be banned and no longer used?
Like someone said, I do also think it's a worry that the smoking/smokers will then be much more of a feature in places where the other people present don't have much of a choice in the matter - i.e. children, in the home.
The civil liberties aspect is worrying, I got this nice little postcard a while ago which I thought summed it all up quite well...you have to wonder what's next. "No complainers in the smoking place", I have to hope.
Cos it's not my pub or your pub. It's the landlord's pub. If he/she wants to say no smoking then fine, if he/she wants to allow it, then fine.
Are you justified in sticking a gun to someone and telling them to do with the business they work to create, maintain and build? No. So you don't have the power to elect someone else to do that either.
But with smoking, other people around the smoker would be breathing it in, unlike alcohol...
Which they also put into everyone else's lungs.
I take it you're a smoker then? AN dif so, would you be saying exactly the same thing if you weren't a smoker?
Buy someone a drink in a pub and you are poisoning them.......mmmmmm get on to claimsdirect and sue your mates if your liver packs in.
Nanny state is going to far soon our air will be taxed to make up for the lost revenue from cigs and booze.
But like I mentioend in my other post - with smoking you're poisoning other people around you. Whereas if you eat fast food, you're not poisoning other people sat around you...
Food and drink are neccessary to survive, smoking is not... fast food is ok in moderation, and i guess to a very small extent smoking is too...but nicotine is addictive, a cheeseburger is not.
ANYWHERE, no matter who owns the place, why should you be allowed to poison my lungs? Just because you have a bad habit which you were fine without before you started for whatever reasons (peer pressure, bit fucked in the head... whatever), that doesn't mean you have a right to hurt/discomfort other people.
"Tyranny begins with the little things, small-minded assaults on the habits and beliefs of minorities. Banning smoking in public places is excessive, disproportionate and illiberal. What next? Angling? Alcohol? Cheeseburgers? One thing is certain: if we don't stand up for the freedoms of others, we will eventually lose those that matter to us."
But it's not possible to walk everywhere, is it?
Yeah, right. :thumb:
that is just propaganda from pro-smokers, taking it out of context... just like most political arguements..
noone... i don't smoke i don't drive (yet)...ok maybe using electricity harms ppl in some way but it is nothing even close to the effect a smoker(s) sitting in a bar would have on the ppl around them's lungs over whatever time period